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Theo May ...
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Theo May is nice, and might give us this generations Jean Luc Ponty. I kinda like this mix better than Jean Luc's that has a tendency to think that it is more classical than it is jazzy or otherwise. At least with Theo May you don't get that, although I did, for some reason, think of some of the Irish/Welsh folks that played folk music for their work. But I'm not sure that is a good comparison at all ... but it has that "folk" feel that Jean Luc does not have.

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

2023 was my favorite prog-year of the 2000s.  I hope 2024s crop is vintage...as well. 
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Aquilus- Bellum II  (Black Metal with occasional buried-in-the-mix death growls, plus classical music interludes...very atmospherical.  Aquilus should be included on Prog Archives)Wink

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That was actually really enjoyable, and for once it didn't exactly feel like the growls and the rest of the music was there just for show and tell kind of thing. This whole thing looks like it was really well defined and put together, and like you suggested it is indeed very classical in moments, but the combination of it all, makes for a more "modern" classical style than otherwise ... kinda violent and explosive, I suppose.

Good listen ... I, generally, can't stand the growls as they are just another gimmick and quite often gratuitous, and sometimes, very badly used as the "lyrics" ... but it is what it is ... sometimes used well, and other times just used for the heck of it.

Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

"Eli: A Wonderful Fall From Grace" is the 11th studio album by the Australian progressive metal band Teramaze.

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Couldn't help thinking that this was a much better, and more interesting Dream Theater than wwhat we have heard from them for some time. Maybe with a touch more melodic than DT's preference for thrash in the past several years. And it allowed the keyboards to do its thing ... someday DT ... someday DT ... actually enjoyed this piece a lot. Might go after some more stuff by these folks. I don't think a band goes this far and this tight, without being really well defined and done, and not just about one player.


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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

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If you reject convention too much you end up with too little substance in the music. There are very few bands that manage(d) to blend wild experimentation with memorable tunes, for me Zappa and Mr. Bungle were prime examples of that. 

My tastes have changed a lot over the decades (been there done that, as they say), and currently I enjoy a wide bandwidth of music. I love innovation and experimentation, but I also love musical ability and virtuosity and above all, good music (songwriting). 

HI,

After 50 years plus of listening, I have always rejected convention and it was also quite visible in the plays/works I directed on stage 40 years ago ... the best thing I did only had a large set of squares making a sort of steps with a king's throne on top ... and the rest of the set was done with lights ... just don't give me "Waiting for Godot" because I will turn it into a psychedelic nightmare for you ... just for you!

For me music is not "tunes" ... PERIOD ... and you already know that. There is more music that will not fit what is defined as a "tune", and that is the area that I prefer to live in. The "tune" thing is way too commercial for me, and this was one of the most important sides/parts of the early days progressive music heroes we have ... they wanted to get away from the commercial styles, and the new FM radio in America really helped.

But, sadly, we can't get away from the commercial sound we are totally surrounded with day and night ... and it makes it harder to find/listen to new things, specially when the quick touch is not "familiar" to your ears, and you end up with someone posting here about Magma ... which is one of the saddest things about listening to any kind of music ... the more spheres you break, the better you can appreciate and learn about new things.

In the past year, PA has gotten better at folks listening and posting a lot of new stuff, and showcasing it with various articles as is seen in this thread ... I have fought for that for many years ... again, it's never about the "tune" ... it's about the music! And you have to define music beyond a tune and the commercial sound regardless of when.


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You already know that anything that borders on the experimental, and with no conventional much of anything, is right up my listening scale. The thing that bothers me the most, is how much of the numbered stuff is metronomic material that has very small amounts of subtleties and the kind of lively and improvised materials that a lot of these folks can bring us.

This rejection of conventions is very common among many prog music fans ... personally I think that it is often exaggerated. If you reject convention too much you end up with too little substance in the music. There are very few bands that manage(d) to blend wild experimentation with memorable tunes, for me Zappa and Mr. Bungle were prime examples of that. 

My tastes have changed a lot over the decades (been there done that, as they say), and currently I enjoy a wide bandwidth of music. I love innovation and experimentation, but I also love musical ability and virtuosity and above all, good music (songwriting). 
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Had been getting disappointed when listening to "new things" for this year, only to find more pedestrian mishmash stuff all over ... and it was getting me disappointed. Many of those listings are getting more and more ... frustrating ... and the great stuff is more difficult to find when you have to go through the stuff that is just like all the others and is considered good by the sound ... not the music!


I can see why you (or others) might have a problem with the lists I post - it's so many releases, and they are all very different in style. From my list, you could for example check out Schubmodul and Adult Jazz:

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Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

 
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

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However I have one proper recommendation (not listed on PA though), which is Banshee by Norwegian saxophonist Signe Emmeluth.
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I love this kind of stuff, which defies the parameters of what "music" really is, and in many examples, this is really far out "classical music", even though I would say that a lot of this is improvised, and a concert would not exactly have known materials, but just new experiences for the moment in time. 
 
In fact I got to know her seeing her live with that Banshee band. They mixed impro and composed material, and I recognised more of the gig on the album than I'd have expected. Happy that you like it.

Hi,

You already know that anything that borders on the experimental, and with no conventional much of anything, is right up my listening scale. The thing that bothers me the most, is how much of the numbered stuff is metronomic material that has very small amounts of subtleties and the kind of lively and improvised materials that a lot of these folks can bring us.

My take on many of these things is almost always ... hearing something that you can not "categorize" or "define", which always creates new experiences and images for me, and this is the main reason why so much rock music that is being added to PA and to some of the numbers simply is not attractive to me ... I like to say I want new sounds, not the same old sounds ... but getting past those "numbers" is really a large waste of time for me since I do not listen to music for recognizable moments and formats.
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"Eli: A Wonderful Fall From Grace" is the 11th studio album by the Australian progressive metal band Teramaze. It was released in April 2024, through Wells Music. This album consists of eight tracks that are interconnected and contribute to telling a cohesive story throughout. The themes of shipwreck survival, betrayal, love, wonder, and star attraction are woven into the narrative of the album, creating a unified concept that runs through its entirety.
"Eli: A Wonderful Fall From Grace" showcases the band's technical prowess with intricate guitar work, complex rhythms, and dynamic song structures. The album features a mix of heavy riffs, melodic passages, and powerful vocals that complement the overall sound.
The production quality of the album is top-notch, with clear instrumentation. "Eli: A Wonderful Fall From Grace" received positive reviews from critics and fans alike for its musical complexity, lyrical depth, and emotional impact. In my opinion, this is a great progressive metal album.
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There are two albums I can mention right now:

Alejandro Matos - Carnaval de las Victimas (review under construction)
Big Big Train - The Likes of Us
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

 
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

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However I have one proper recommendation (not listed on PA though), which is Banshee by Norwegian saxophonist Signe Emmeluth.
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I love this kind of stuff, which defies the parameters of what "music" really is, and in many examples, this is really far out "classical music", even though I would say that a lot of this is improvised, and a concert would not exactly have known materials, but just new experiences for the moment in time. 
 
In fact I got to know her seeing her live with that Banshee band. They mixed impro and composed material, and I recognised more of the gig on the album than I'd have expected. Happy that you like it.
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Given that there's some interaction going on now (thanks for all this!), I say that among the albums listed I like "So Sorry So Slow" by Adult Jazz a lot (somewhere buried on Mike's list), also the Julia Holter album, and at least the best bits of the Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, which are really great, but I haven't yet become friends with the whole album. May still happen though.

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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Hi there,

I freaked out at first. Mosh pit is a scary thing, don't ya think? TongueWinkBig smileLOL
This looks pretty funny but alas I don't get it. Sorry. Cry
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2023 was my favorite prog-year of the 2000s.  I hope 2024s crop is vintage...as well. 

My top 2024 albums...Not in order of preference, but I purchased CD or Vinyl copies of everything I listed.

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - "The Last Human Being"
Present - "This Is Not The End"
Ellesmere - "Stranger Skies"
Caligula's Horse- "Charcoal Grace"
The Aristocrats- "Duck"
Big Big Train- " The Likes of Us"
Celeste- "Echi Di Un Futuro Passato"
Chronicles of Father Robin- "Book III"

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Aquilus- Bellum II  (Black Metal with occasional buried-in-the-mix death growls, plus classical music interludes...very atmospherical.  Aquilus should be included on Prog Archives)Wink



I don't like death growls, but I can dig it when Opeth, Unexpect, and Aquilus do it. 





   


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Theo May is a violinist who was born in the late 1990s near rivers and cornfields in North Wiltshire. He received formal training at the Purcell School in 2015, where he studied composition. May further pursued his education at the Royal College of Music under the guidance of renowned composers such as Mark Anthony Turnage and Errollyn Wallen. May's musical development has been influenced by various genres, including progressive jazz, free improvisation, folk, contemporary classical music, and more. He is known for his work with the Odd Unit quintet, a group of music college graduates who create compositions that blend elements of jazz, folk, and classical music. The Odd Unit's music is characterised by its high-octane tunes, dark soundscapes, melancholic lyrical pieces, avant-garde experimental soundscapes, and fierce intensity.

In January 2024, Theo May's Odd Unit released a CD, "Alive in the Forest of Odd." The album, which I think is great, is likely to create an immersive atmosphere for listeners. Through intricate arrangements and layered textures,Theo May’s Odd Unit aims to transport the audience into a different sonic realm, evoking emotions and sparking imagination. The album features innovative soundscapes that challenge conventional notions of melody and harmony. Expect dynamic rhythms on this album as Theo May's Odd Unit explores complex rhythmic patterns, unconventional time signatures, intricate drumming, polyrhythmic textures, and unexpected tempo changes that add depth and intensity to the listening experience.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

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I freaked out at first. Mosh pit is a scary thing, don't ya think? TongueWinkBig smileLOL
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I find that an awful lot of what I listen to these days falls into the chamber pop and art pop categorisations
same! Actually there's one more album then, that I need to recommend here, and it's some sublime art-pop:



Thanks you. Wow, I absolutely love that!
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same! Actually there's one more album then, that I need to recommend here, and it's some sublime art-pop:
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Beth Gibbons - Lives Outgrown (chamber pop)
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I've been meaning to listen to that. Of course I love her in Portishead, and her album with Rustin Man, Out of Season, is much loved by me. I find that an awful lot of what I listen to these days falls into the chamber pop and art pop categorisations. I should try the new Billie Eilish too, amongst others.
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in no particular order:

The Amazing - Piggies (slowcore)
Arab Strap - I'm totally fine with it 👍 don't give a fk anymore 👍 (electronic/slowcore)
Mildlife - Chorus (chill fusion)
Sivert Høyem - On an Island (singer-songwriter)
Solar Blooms - Akhali Dzalis Dabadeba (proggy hard rock)
Tarot - Glimpse Of The Dawn (proggy hard rock)
Billie Eilish - Hit Me Hard And Soft (art pop)
Willow - Empathogen (art pop)
Lo Moon - I Wish You Way More Than Luck (art pop)
Beth Gibbons - Lives Outgrown (chamber pop)
Judas Priest - Invincible Shield (heavy metal)
Ellesmere - Stranger Skies (neo-prog)
Counting Hours - The Wishing Tomb (gothic metal)
My Dying Bride - A Mortal Binding (gothic metal)
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Not on PA, but I guess Julia Holter's new album Something in the Room She Moves is very will be of interest to some prog fans:
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On PA, and I was surprised that a track was played on a national public radio channel last week, Perilymph's new album Progressions Imaginaires.
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Hi,

Had been getting disappointed when listening to "new things" for this year, only to find more pedestrian mishmash stuff all over ... and it was getting me disappointed. Many of those listings are getting more and more ... frustrating ... and the great stuff is more difficult to find when you have to go through the stuff that is just like all the others and is considered good by the sound ... not the music!

Both of these albums are far out. Julia Holter's perspective is really special and very well done.

Perilymph's album is a treat and worth a listen ... 

Might get me re-inspired again ... not sure why we think that guy's solo song is great when it isn't ... and a rehash of stuff done before ... whereas these are way more original and worth the listen ... 

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

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However I have one proper recommendation (not listed on PA though), which is Banshee by Norwegian saxophonist Signe Emmeluth.
...

I love this kind of stuff, which defies the parameters of what "music" really is, and in many examples, this is really far out "classical music", even though I would say that a lot of this is improvised, and a concert would not exactly have known materials, but just new experiences for the moment in time. 

This is rare, to hear and see musicians that do this, and in a place like PA, this might be too polarising and apart from the definitions and styles ... no growl, no screaming pedestrian guitars, no high school drumming ... you know ... stuff usually listed with numbers. 

Thanks for posting this ... love it!!!!


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I have not checked to see what is on PA, although I know the Radiohead-related Wall of Eyes is in PA, and I would guess that Harbour Centre will be if not in now. I don't categorise my collection into Prog, Prog-related, Prog-adjacent, Proggy, quasi-Prog, semi-Prog etc. and Non-Prog and don't find value in trying to make that determination except for site work, and even then it can be so subjective. Prog is so nebulous and amorphous. These are some I liked from this year, with Tapir!, Wall of Eyes and Eunuchs being particular favourites. While I adore Julia Holter and love various albums bv her, her latest still needs more time with me to properly click.

Tapir! - The Pilgrim, Their God and the King of My Decrepit Mountain



Eunuchs - Harbour Century



The Smile - Wall of Eyes



Julia Holter - Something in the Room She Moves
Chelsea Wolfe - She Reaches Out to She Reaches Out to She
St. Vincent - All Born Screaming
glass beach - Plastic Death
Prizes Roses Rosa - To Fire Clay
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