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Cristi
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I don't know how that's a hot take.
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King Crimson776
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In the Wake of Poseidon, Lizard and Islands > Discipline
Tarkus > Close to the Edge (songs, not albums)
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mathman0806
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Not a hot take. |
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RockHound
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But this site is where my favorite opinion pieces are written...
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Easy Money
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Pretty much.
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Ian
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Valdez1
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LOL |
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Frets N Worries
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Couldn't Agree More
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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Hrychu
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Hot take: Threads about politics/democracy on Progarchives are mostly cringe.
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“On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.”
— Ernest Vong |
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Frets N Worries
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Not much of a Hot Take it seems!
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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Criswell
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Agreed
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Harold B
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The new Big Big Train Album is superior to the last two albums but doesn't come close to the run from Under fall Yard to Grand Tour.
Not close.
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verslibre
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Same here. |
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Frets N Worries
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Danger Money > U.K.
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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verslibre
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Now that post is money. |
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RockHound
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I'm far from stuck in the '70s (my wife might disagree, yet she looks like she's going to burst when I roll the likes of Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and the Rabbinical School Dropouts). I view the foundations of prog as coming from two distinct schools of music-the European School and the American School. The European school is rooted in fusing rock with all kinds of classical influences, giving us the likes of KC, Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc. There are obviously lots of jazz elements, but something that I find interesting is the limited cross-pollination among the bands relative to the American school. When there was cross-pollination, it was magical, such as Jon Anderson turning up on Lizard to sing Prince Rupert Awakes or Fripp and Eno getting together to totally mess with our heads. Slowly cross-pollination became more common, with the likes of Bruford showing up in KC and Genesis. The American School, by contrast, is rooted in all kinds of jazz, blues, soul, and rock structures and less centered around the classical influences. The amount of cross-pollination is extreme, considering the diverse collaborations among all the Miles Davis alumni (McLaughlin, Corea, Zawinul, etc.) and Zappa spreading his alumni all over the place (Belew, Thompson, Ponty, Duke, Val, etc.). As such, the groups tend to be more transitory, and the individuals have really diverse careers with lots of solo and collaboration work outside the flagship bands, making the scene more diffuse. In the '80s, however, cross-pollination yielded unbelievable results with contributions like the Eno-Byrne collaborations which gave us the likes of My Life in the Bush of Ghosts and The Catherine Wheel. After the MTV-infected cultural lag of that time, the '90s brought tremendous diversification, giving us the smorgasbord of progressive styles we enjoy today-and all with very little major label support. |
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Awesoreno
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I would contend that a lot of those bands are essentially fusing metal with prog-jazz. The jazz metal craze has been proliferating for the last dozen years or so, and it is particularly strong in (though not exclusive to) the US.
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verslibre
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That's not what I'm saying, but don't worry about it. |
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Zappastolethetowels
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not sure what you're trying to say here, but you seem to have the stats to tell me that most American acts today borrow a lot from fusion. That doesn't make all those bands fusion per se. Im sure you will find today's American prog dominated by metal and tech stuff rather than fusion
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Cristi
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I like the album, but is it better than H to He... though? Not for me, that's all.
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