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tullspanfan
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=48870
First track of CD 2 should be "Part II" not "Part 11".
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NotAProghead
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=84495
I think this entry should be revised, but I don't own that album. The line up is clearly wrong (it lists members from the 80s and 90s) and, as for the format, I'm not sure it exists on CD.
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NotAProghead
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The line-up taken from A Passion Play: An Extended Perfomance box.
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siLLy puPPy
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Just wondering why NEKTAR is listed as being from the UK when they formed in Germany in 1969? I tried changing it but the admin section keeps timing out for me. Sure the band members were British but the band was formed in Germany! Can someone else change it? - E&O Team: There was already some discussion about it here - Wikipedia says: Nektar is an English progressive rock band formed in Hamburg, West Germany I'm not sure what's the right thing to do.
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Deciding whether to use the band members' nationality or the place where the band was formed to assign the country to a Progarchives entry in ambiguous cases such as this one has always been tricky.
For example: Yesterdays is assigned to Romania, cause even though the band consists entirely of Hungarians (and they've always used Hungarian lyrics in their music), it was de facto formed in Romania. But as time went on, a lot of the members moved back to Hungary, so that made it more confusing. |
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Minor corrections - Florian Zepf / electric, pedal-steel & acoustic guitars, banjo, mandolin, lead (2) & backing vocals, programming, percussion, compositions, production - Vladimir Lalic / lead & backing vocals - Jamie Powell / bass - Zsolt Kaltenecker / keyboards - Gerald Peter / keyboards, piano - Tim Korycki / drums With: - Megan Burtt / lead vocals (5) - Simen Børven / bass (5) - Adam Marko / drums (5) - Damiano Della Torre / accordion (5) - Luis Conte / percussions (3) - Isaac Alderson / Uillean pipes & flutes (1) - Aneesh Kashalikar/ duduk (4,7) - Maria Grigoryeva / violin, viola & cello (7) Artwork Felix Schönberger - E&O Team: Thanks, done.
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More mess 1. Metature (4:58) 2. Comfortable Darkness (2:49) 3. Killing True Beliefs (6:27) 4. Fractional Emotion (6:05) 5. A Formula for Happiness (6:50) 6. Inner Circle (2:10) 7. You and Me Alone (5:12) 8. Hurt (4:39) 9. Destiny Inc. (15:37) 10. Mind Treasures (1:44) 11. With Others (6:19) Total Time 62:50 - Vladimir Lalic / lead & backing vocals - Florian Zepf / guitars, backing vocals, programming, percussion - Conner Green / bass - Aquiles Priester / drums - Luis Conte / percussion (3,7) - Kevin Moore / loops, samples & programming (1,2,6,7,10) With: - Derek Sherinian / keyboards - Megan Burtt / lead vocals (7) - Joe di Fiore / horns (8), clarinet & oboe (7) - Isaac Alderson / Uilleann pipes & flutes (7) - Kevin Buckley / fiddle (7) - Eileen Gannon / harp (7) - Leon van Egmond / harmonica (1) - Maria Grigoryeva / violin & viola (1,4,9,11) - Svetlova Elena Alexandrovna / cello (1,4,9,11) Artwork Felix Schönberger - E&O Team: Thanks, done. Edited by NotAProghead - March 21 2024 at 16:58 |
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mbzr48
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=83634
1. Direct Inject (5:52) 2. So Mote it Be (4:51) 3. Bodies in the Flotsam (2:55) 4. Kamichi & Sandy (4:59) 5. Sessuale II (6:29) 6. Improvise Adapt Overcome (3:28) 7. The Post-Atomic Horror (2:49) 8. Insurmountable Odds (5:54) 9. Sessuale I (3:33) Total Time 40:50
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mbzr48
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=83906
1. Static Mind (1:31) 2. Theta (5:04) 3. Time Bridge (Instrumental) (1:53) 4. Manifestations (Instrumental) (6:28) 5. Ternary (4:17) 6. Binary Dream (14:06) 7. Hybrid (6:07) 8. Corrosion (5:45) 9. De Erosion (Instrumental) (3:31) Total Time 48:42
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NotAProghead
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^^ Thanks, Mayer, both done.
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siLLy puPPy
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NO they weren't an English band. They were all FROM England but most of them were already in Germany throughout the 60s. They clearly formed in Germany in 1969 and remained there at least until the 70s when they worked near Heidelberg. I'd say Germany is the correct nation to place them. At the very least they should be listed as international but they NEVER existed as a band in the UK. This is the bio from THEIR OWN WEBSITE (an excerpt): Formed in Germany in 1969 by British expats, Nektar soaked up the
musical freedom they found in their new home, favoring extended
compositions and concept albums over the constraints of pop. They were
among the progenitors of the progressive rock movement of the 1970s as
well as the jam-band scene that arose in the late 1990s. Their sound
traveled well to the States, where they enjoyed Top 40 success with “A
Tab in the Ocean” (1972) and “Remember the Future” (1973). Nearly 20
albums and a half-century later, the band’s artistic and personal
charisma has earned them masses of devoted fans, who have flocked to
festivals such as NearFest and ProgStock, and venues like the Wildey
Theatre (where they perform multi-night sold-out shows) to indulge their
passion for the Nektar experience. - E&O Team: I don't want to fight, but I stumble across this recent article from the PROG magazine - here are some relevant excerpts:
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The original 16 tracks mixed by Steven Wilson and a fourth side (last 4 tracks) showing
how a handful of recordings did get used on subsequent albums Had a previous 2014 somewhat different release (and different coverart) with this particular note Disc 2 (1988 1993 Ian Anderson 1st Mix With Flute Overdubs). Presented In Identical Form As On Nightcap - The Unreleased Masters CD Chrysalis, 1993 More info here
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mbzr48
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=84485
1. Intro (1:33) 2. Les Yeux (6:48) 3. Interlude 1 (2:36) 4. Loin Du Bruit (6:32) 5. Interlude 2 (1:59) 6. Aventure (8:08) 7. Interlude 3 (3:30) 8. Un Instant Ou Deux (6:27) 9. Interlude 4 (1:13) 10. Outro (2:32) Total Time 41:18 |
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NotAProghead
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^ Thanks, Mayer, done.
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NotAProghead
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I agree, first 16 tracks remixed by Steven Wilson. But it's not obvious that the last 4 tracks "Presented In Identical Form As On Nightcap". Last 4 tracks are: 7. Chateau D'Isaster Tapes (Scenario/Audition/No Rehearsal) (11:10) 8. Only Solitaire (1974 Warchild Mix) (1:29) 9. The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles (Passion Play Mix with Overdubs) (4:11) 10. Skating Away On the Thin Ice of the New Day (Warchild Mix with overdubs) (Edit) (3:29) Tracks 9 (The Story of the Hare...) and 10 (Skating Away...) were not included in "Nightcap". I don't understand the request.
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=84554
Label: M.P. & Records Format: Digital March 19, 2024 - Francesco Carella / vocals, keyboards - Giuseppe Quarta / drums With: - Richard Sinclair / bass, vocals - Mezz Gacano / guitars, vocals - E&O Team: Thanks Mayer, done. Added tracks times in the process.
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siLLy puPPy
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So is this just going to be ignored even though it's well established on the band's own website that the band was formed in Germany and remained there because they all moved there and stayed? Couldn't be any clearer than what the band lays out in its own bio. - E&O Team: We are not ignoring anything. We just want to make sure everything is correct before making changes. That's our work. First of all, on PA we can assign a "country" to every band. But which country? This is not clear. Formation of the band? Origin of its members? Who knows? In our biography, the first sentence goes like this: NEKTAR is probably the most German-like of the Seventies British bands. And if you consider the last excerpt that I posted earlier, one longtime band member says, and I quote: "It was strange; we were an English band but we were living out in Germany.” I know that this band was formed in Germany, but everywhere I look it says: UK, England, British... so I really wonder!
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NotAProghead
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^ Who on earth considers Nektar a German band? It will look ridiculous.
I'd suggest leave Nektar to the British crown and switch on to something more interesting and helpful.
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siLLy puPPy
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- E&O Team: We are not ignoring
anything. We just want to make sure everything is correct before making
changes. That's our work. First
of all, on PA we can assign a "country" to every band. But which
country? This is not clear. Formation of the band? Origin of its
members? Who knows? In our biography, the first sentence goes like this: NEKTAR is probably the most German-like of the Seventies British bands. And
if you consider the last excerpt that I posted earlier, one longtime
band member says, and I quote: "It was strange; we were an English band but we were living out in Germany.” I know that this band was formed in Germany, but everywhere I look it says: UK, England, British... so I really wonder! OK, thanks for the explanation. Well, i've looked into this quite a bit myself. Everywhere that says they're an English band is wrong. They were four Englishmen formed in Germany and then remained in Germany. They were ex-pats. The term English band refers to their sound, not their nation of formation and existence. This is a minor thing i realize so i'm not going to push this any further. Just wanted to make sure this didn't go unnoticed. If their own website with their own words isn't enough to convince you to change it then i guess nothing would. A good compromise would simply be to consider them international. Personally i've always considered them a German band because i count where a band was formed. If a group of Russian immigrants got together after moving to the USA and started a band would it be a Russian band or an American band? Lots of people migrate to other countries and start bands and in every other case i can think of the band is connected with nation of formation. Maybe PA needs a more defined policy regarding this. Seems like similar bands on this site are simply under international. Whatever the case, do whatever you feel is the right thing. It's not a biggie for sure. And thanks for the response :) Edited by siLLy puPPy - March 25 2024 at 22:09 |
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