Tangerine Dream: Untangling the Tangram |
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Edgar made the decision to return the band to a more "classic" format in 2014, maybe even earlier. Bernard Beibl was the first to go, followed by Iris and then Linda. The main impetus was plummeting album sales paired with the cost of maintaining a large roster. Their last North American tour had left TD with a significant deficit (they also lost money on the recent tour). |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence
ZLATKO PERICA A follicly-challenged Swiss guitarist, originally from the former Yugoslavia, hence the Slavic name. Tangerine Dream albums with Zlatko Perica 1993: Tangerine Dream - 220 Volt Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGckEEA2BKqGkllbJljw2kPYCK6ckjfot 1994: Tangerine Dream - Turn of the Tides - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFQHH4SfyY 1997: Tangerine Dream - Tournado: Live in Europe 1998: Tangerine Dream - Valentine Wheels (Live) - http://www.tangerinedreammusic.com/en/music/detail.asp?id=71&tit=Valentine+Wheels 2004: Tangerine Dream - Arizona Live 1992 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WECaGWBvRQM
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Two more: 1993: Tangerine Dream – 220 Volt Live 2004: Tangerine Dream – Arizona Live |
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Psychedelic Paul
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^ Thanks. I'll add them to the list.
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Hi, It's a shame that 220 VOLT LIVE is not on DVD ... the album, alone, is magnificent, and sometimes not appreciated by many TD fans, but it brought about a "NEW" TD live experience, and it was EXCELLENT, but not to be seen until a bit later with Bernard and the ladies, which might have come alive after Jerome left (2006) ... but the history of TD is empty since the book Edgar left us with ended BEFORE Jerome ... and I imagine that Bianca is not releasing it because of Jerome, and since he will take over from Bianca, when she passes, it will become rather interesting if he will bother not using it as anything but a book. My guess is that a new version of TD will take place, as I doubt that he will get along with the professor and master Thorsten. But his technical ability, is far superior to his creative ability ... and something that I imagine Jerome could work with, but I doubt he will do it ... probably go it alone for a while, and add folks as time allows and passes by. It's a shame, the experimental and live improvisations TD is doing these days, are far superior to any CD/DVD they have put out, but I have not checked to see how many of these sessions have been placed on DVD ... some of them are outstanding, but not being heard, or discussed at all. I do think, however, that it is really difficult to describe and discuss this material ... like a lot of "improvisations" it is what it is, and defies description, and these are closer to that then the released CD material which is too self-conscious to be better, and more interesting, not to mention the variety of guests they have done some work with (Steve Roach, Nick Beggs ... I do not know the name of that woman guitarist at all !!!! anyone???) and hopefully will add more to their listing. You get to see the creative side of things, and for once, Hoshiko is more interesting than mere ... background to the sequencer and the rest! I'm glad I don't know a thing about the "future", and that it is not something I'm good at!
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I was at the concert and it was a mixed bag. Zlatko's "shreddy-metal" guitar playing didn't pair well with the electronic backing. Jerome played some uninspired guitar lines alongside Zlatko. It wasn't until Edgar's guitar spotlight that it really "felt" like Tangerine Dream that night. The new music all blended together, but "Hamlet" was wonderful. As for the sax, I know Paul won't like reading this, but Linda just wasn't "there" yet, though her stage presence was very, uh, pleasant. She should've stuck to keyboards on that tour.
If Bianca is no longer in control, Jerome will end Tangerine Dream. He believes the name died with his father and what's happening currently is for commercial gain. In that respect, he's correct, as the current trio probably wouldn't do as well under a different or modified name -- Quantum Dream?
Jerome has already struck out on his own. I think his guitar playing was rather good with Loom. I'm surprised Loom has already concluded their activities, but as Jerome and Johannes happen to be good friends, maybe they'll resume at some point.
I think the Sessions have been a mixed bag, too. The next studio album will be the one that shows where the current trio is really at. Their next release will be a soundtrack. |
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Hi, For me they are great, and very much on par with the really early TD for me ... I call it close your eyes and let it go ... and it's far out. The visuals are nice, but for me, they are not necessary ... I can close my eyes and fly better. In all honesty, I think they are a bit of a thing that is making sure that TD stays on par with the incredible number of German folks releasing material these days that is quite influenced by earlier TD stuff and has the ability and knowhow to sound good. And some of that stuff (a lot of it is in Space Pirate Radio courtesy of many of the artists and a couple of labels) is way better than what TD has been doing since Edgar went on a permanent vacation ... and I think that Thorsten is smart enough to hear it and do something about it ... however, he has to make better use of Paul and Hoshiko, instead of them simply adding background to all his machines ... which, in this day and age, look rather ridiculous and unnecessary ... which might suggest that Thorsten is out of time and place, and while he can maintain with many of the current dignitaries, he is not as inventive as he thinks he is ... some of the stuff that he did with Marcus Reuter, Steve Roach and others is far superior to what TD has done, and has more "life" in it, than the stoic and rather copy'ish material TD has been doing.
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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence IRIS CAMAA Austrian percussionist and blonde bombshell Iris Claudia Martina Antonia Kulterer (better-known as Iris Camaa) was with Tangerine Dream from 2001 thru' to 2014, but she also has a respectable solo career of her own with her particular brand of Soul-Jazz-Pop sounding nothing at all like Tangerine Dream. Oh, and she sings too! Yes, Iris Camaa truly is a Chameleon. Be prepared to be pleasantly surprised (or not, as the case may be). Iris's solo Dance-Pop albums may be resistible to many Tangerine Dream fans, unlike Iris herself, who's perfectly Irisistible. 2003: Iris Camaa - Chameleon - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n9Dl16UM49fh_ZgRMhkoLETdOhKnlwVKA 2008: Iris Camaa - Intimate Exchange - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nGyt9EQSa58ICiUbPUKJYMKTgaycIYmlw 2010: Iris Camaa - Snapshot (EP) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9wqNAFVfsYGjqcB8ucQ1Rvs_v36MWp28 2015: Iris Camaa & Ariel Ramirez - Colsas Boas - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_knXrEnszKt1miXtHE-uPn2TTn4WnlwzI4 2017: Iris Camaa - Irisistible - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kCACVdSDrIjsvEx4pBLyrmccO7h8Mm9Ss Edited by Psychedelic Paul - March 11 2024 at 09:50 |
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moshkito
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Hi, Paul ... "this playlist is private". There went my taste for Iris ... I'll just watch the TD videos, thank you!
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Okay, thanks for letting me know. That's what happens when I copy and paste old links without checking if they still work. I've now updated all of Iris's albums with new links, making them as fresh as newly-laid eggs.
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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence
CHRIS HAUSL German New Wave singer Chris Hausl only appeared on one Tangerine Dream studio album, but what an incredible album! 2007: Tangerine Dream - Madcap's Flaming Duty - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ARrzcnvG5I |
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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence
BERNHARD BEIBL An Austrian guitarist par excellence who was one of the "famous five" during what is arguably Tangerine Dream's greatest live performance era from 2006 to 2014. Tangerine Dream's magnificent nine concerts with the fabulous five of Bernhard Beibl, Iris Camaa, Edgar Froese, Thorsten Quaeschning & Linda Spa - Part One 2006: Tangerine Dream - Tempodrome Berlin - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g48ZXWsFCoA 2007: Tangerine Dream - Orange Odyssey - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_kdXiP3jQ8 2007: Tangerine Dream - One Night in Space - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpEO2P38PM Edited by Psychedelic Paul - March 13 2024 at 10:03 |
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Tangerine Dream's magnificent nine concerts with the fabulous five of Bernhard Beibl, Iris Camaa, Edgar Froese, Thorsten Quaeschning & Linda Spa - Part Two 2008: Tangerine Dream - Live at Loreley - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wjCZ9fyyq0 2009: Tangerine Dream - The London Eye Concert - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyzPGKH0U58 2009: Tangerine Dream - Live in Los Angeles (DVD/Video) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5n72n3Syk Edited by Psychedelic Paul - March 13 2024 at 09:57 |
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Tangerine Dream's magnificent nine concerts with the fabulous five of Bernhard Beibl, Iris Camaa, Edgar Froese, Thorsten Quaeschning & Linda Spa - Part Three 2009: Tangerine Dream - Rocking Out the Bats - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEStd5YJdLs 2010: Tangerine Dream - Zeitgeist: Live in Lisbon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thpd59FmvAE 2012: Tangerine Dream - The Electric Mandarine Tour: The Zurich Switzerland Concert - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyiKD3YUEDI Edited by Psychedelic Paul - March 13 2024 at 09:56 |
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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence
THORSTEN QUAESCHNING Anointed as the new leader of Tangerine Dream by Edgar Froese shortly before his death in early 2015, Thorsten Quaeschning has appeared on almost every Tangerine Dream album and in every live performance since joining the band in 2005. 2017: Thorsten Quaeschning & Ulrich Schnauss - Synthwaves - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSkdJnxZZ1sDEKHjhmj6PBThrMW50DHzA 2018: Thorsten Quaeschning - Cargo (soundtrack) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lLdnQMPvYzqjJP9_SUYmNfp1yiKmDWiZo 2019: Thorsten Quaeschning - The Munich Session - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEV90CM1DQY 2019: Thorsten Quaeschning Meets Paul Frick -The Seaside Stage - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mO7JnmFIMVofpp8_sukRiP4Dj5o3m1gM8 2020: Thorsten Quaeschning - The Capitol Session - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kZjKDMW1ZD0GRrU5-9CzRqV5VFbgvHlXM 2021: Thorsten Quaeschning - AMA - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nDBRPcikKapQhh-_vccrOo3gKCIuuKYv4 2021: Thorsten Quaeschning - Was Nicht Sein Darf (soundtrack) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpsefmqklWmM7B_Cd_8d1Gc_72JFSQfEk Edited by Psychedelic Paul - March 15 2024 at 04:30 |
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Hi, ... and don't forget to whip that piano!
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^ I'd forgotten about Edgar rudely interrupting Linda's piano-playing with a whip-crack-away.
Linda Spa uninterrupted at Berlin's Ballhaus |
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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence
ULRICH SCHNAUSS A member of the contemporary Tangerine Dream trio (alongside Thorsten Quaeschning & Yoshiko Yamane) from 2014 to 2020, Ulrich Schnauss also has an extensive solo back-catalogue of Post Rock albums as well as working with various Shoegaze bands, delivering polished performances and with polished shoes to match, no doubt. 2001: Ulrich Schnauss - Faraway Trains Passing By - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL10d-p2PLQ-JBId_a6ZPxYdDaeWDu5001 2007: Ulrich Schnauss - Goodbye - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0bXKdbwQm8nPdi7sRxpXXJAS_g4KNqGE 2010: Ulrich Schnauss & Jonas Munk - Epic - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_mE0TE9a-Y 2012: Ulrich Schnauss & Mark Peters - Underrated Silence - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22Aa1wSmDcUyX0cKNRujETvTXM3B9Yj_ 2013: Ulrich Schnauss & Mark Peters - Tomorrow is Another Day - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_narrCPJ3JqxSOrecYl3XVi-shskOirPkI 2016: Ulrich Schnauss - No Further Ahead Than Today - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0IpMAIz-CxTPcyFjV40wf7MrP0W0hrHU 2017: Ulrich Schnauss & Jonas Munk - Passage - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mLKBMKYpP1nVWxddcKaqV6KOIBaxAHnGI 2017: Ulrich Schnauss & Thorsten Quaeschning - Synthwaves - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSkdJnxZZ1sDEKHjhmj6PBThrMW50DHzA 2019: Ulrich Schnauss - Live in Madrid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ed4HQ4zoo 2021: Ulrich Schnauss & Jonas Munk - Eight Fragments of an Illusion - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nBd2QyXpWF_GwJ9ZWVvqO7VOZAtLaDGEE 2021: Ulrich Schnauss & Mark Peters - Destiny Waiving - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYuuR4oQq-QDcZue4fMZGO7daukxVb9zQ 2021: Ulrich Schnauss - Now is a Timeless Present: A Retrospective - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpWojZK1ttkGe8sDcXoK34fUtpB5QLOMU Edited by Psychedelic Paul - March 20 2024 at 06:12 |
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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence
PAUL FRICK Paul Frick is the newest addition to the Tangerine Dream line-up, having joined the TD trio in 2020, following the sudden departure of Ulrich Schnauss. Before that, Paul Frick had tried virtually EVERYTHING in the world of music, going from being a guitarist in a heavy metal band to a house music MC, a wannabe rapper, a jazzy keyboard player and a hip hopper to boot, before finally becoming the newest face in the electronic music scene by entering the frenetic pace of life on the road with Tangerine Dream, just before they embarked on their longest world tour in their entire career in 2023. Paul Frick has the notable distinction of being the only member of Tangerine Dream never to have met Edgar Froese. 2018: Paul Frick - Second Yard Botanicals - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kXcixOEDNemamZ7i_S7cFIF8uh_IzAGzs 2021: Paul Frick - Hofknicks - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l6sLkNXFO1Jdt9JxnEc7n0X810ypTY0xE 2021: Paul Frick & Emika - In Parallel - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kYyYdb5aXwdigGugAuYw422EorXFkdWhQ
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I'm still not sure he's a good addition. He doesn't stand out. I think he's there to fill the "third person" quota. |
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