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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

{SNIP}when she rejoined Tangerine Dream in 2005 and remained with the band until the major upheaval of 2014, when Bernard Beibl and Iris Camaa both departed around the same time, leaving only Thorsten Quaeshning to continue Tangerine Dream in the wake of Edgar Froese's permanent change of cosmic address in early 2015.


Edgar made the decision to return the band to a more "classic" format in 2014, maybe even earlier. Bernard Beibl was the first to go, followed by Iris and then Linda. The main impetus was plummeting album sales paired with the cost of maintaining a large roster. Their last North American tour had left TD with a significant deficit (they also lost money on the recent tour).
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ZLATKO PERICA       A follicly-challenged Swiss guitarist, originally from the former Yugoslavia, hence the Slavic name. Smile

Tangerine Dream albums with Zlatko Perica

3 stars 1994: Tangerine Dream - Turn of the Tides - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFQHH4SfyY
3 stars 1997: Tangerine Dream - Tournado: Live in Europe 
5 stars 2004: Tangerine Dream - Arizona Live 1992 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WECaGWBvRQM


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence

ZLATKO PERICA       A follicly-challenged Swiss guitarist, originally from the former Yugoslavia, hence the Slavic name. Smile

Tangerine Dream albums with Zlatko Perica

3 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1994: Tangerine Dream - Turn of the Tides - </span>[URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFQHH4SfyY" rel="nofollow]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFQHH4SfyY[/URL]
3 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1997: Tangerine Dream - Tournado: Live in Europe </span>
4 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 1998: Tangerine Dream - Valentine Wheels (Live) - http://www.tangerinedreammusic.com/en/music/detail.asp?id=71&tit=Valentine+Wheels</span>



Two more:

1993: Tangerine Dream – 220 Volt Live

2004: Tangerine Dream – Arizona Live
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^ Thanks. I'll add them to the list. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

 
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1993: Tangerine Dream – 220 Volt Live
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Hi,

It's a shame that 220 VOLT LIVE is not on DVD ... the album, alone, is magnificent, and sometimes not appreciated by many TD fans, but it brought about a "NEW" TD live experience, and it was EXCELLENT, but not to be seen until a bit later with Bernard and the ladies, which might have come alive after Jerome left (2006) ... but the history of TD is empty since the book Edgar left us with ended BEFORE Jerome ... and I imagine that Bianca is not releasing it because of Jerome, and since he will take over from Bianca, when she passes, it will become rather interesting if he will bother not using it as anything but a book. My guess is that a new version of TD will take place, as I doubt that he will get along with the professor and master Thorsten. But his technical ability, is far superior to his creative ability ... and something that I imagine Jerome could work with, but I doubt he will do it ... probably go it alone for a while, and add folks as time allows and passes by.

It's a shame, the experimental and live improvisations TD is doing these days, are far superior to any CD/DVD they have put out, but I have not checked to see how many of these sessions have been placed on DVD ... some of them are outstanding, but not being heard, or discussed at all. I do think, however, that it is really difficult to describe and discuss this material ... like a lot of "improvisations" it is what it is, and defies description, and these are closer to that then the released CD material which is too self-conscious to be better, and more interesting, not to mention the variety of guests they have done some work with (Steve Roach, Nick Beggs ... I do not know the name of that woman guitarist at all !!!! anyone???) and hopefully will add more to their listing. You get to see the creative side of things, and for once, Hoshiko is more interesting than mere ... background to the sequencer and the rest!

I'm glad I don't know a thing about the "future", and that it is not something I'm good at!


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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

1993: Tangerine Dream – 220 Volt Live


It's a shame that 220 VOLT LIVE is not on DVD ... the album, alone, is magnificent, and sometimes not appreciated by many TD fans, but it brought about a "NEW" TD live experience, and it was EXCELLENT, but not to be seen until a bit later with Bernard and the ladies, which might have come alive after Jerome left (2006)


I was at the concert and it was a mixed bag. Zlatko's "shreddy-metal" guitar playing didn't pair well with the electronic backing. Jerome played some uninspired guitar lines alongside Zlatko. It wasn't until Edgar's guitar spotlight that it really "felt" like Tangerine Dream that night. The new music all blended together, but "Hamlet" was wonderful.

As for the sax, I know Paul won't like reading this, but Linda just wasn't "there" yet, though her stage presence was very, uh, pleasant. She should've stuck to keyboards on that tour.

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

... but the history of TD is empty since the book Edgar left us with ended BEFORE Jerome ... and I imagine that Bianca is not releasing it because of Jerome, and since he will take over from Bianca, when she passes, it will become rather interesting if he will bother not using it as anything but a book. My guess is that a new version of TD will take place, as I doubt that he will get along with the professor and master Thorsten.


If Bianca is no longer in control, Jerome will end Tangerine Dream. He believes the name died with his father and what's happening currently is for commercial gain. In that respect, he's correct, as the current trio probably wouldn't do as well under a different or modified name -- Quantum Dream?

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

But his technical ability, is far superior to his creative ability ... and something that I imagine Jerome could work with, but I doubt he will do it ... probably go it alone for a while, and add folks as time allows and passes by.


Jerome has already struck out on his own. I think his guitar playing was rather good with Loom. I'm surprised Loom has already concluded their activities, but as Jerome and Johannes happen to be good friends, maybe they'll resume at some point.


Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

It's a shame, the experimental and live improvisations TD is doing these days, are far superior to any CD/DVD they have put out, but I have not checked to see how many of these sessions have been placed on DVD ... some of them are outstanding, but not being heard, or discussed at all. I do think, however, that it is really difficult to describe and discuss this material ... like a lot of "improvisations" it is what it is, and defies description, and these are closer to that then the released CD material which is too self-conscious to be better, and more interesting, not to mention the variety of guests they have done some work with (Steve Roach, Nick Beggs ... I do not know the name of that woman guitarist at all !!!! anyone???) and hopefully will add more to their listing. You get to see the creative side of things, and for once, Hoshiko is more interesting than mere ... background to the sequencer and the rest!


I think the Sessions have been a mixed bag, too. The next studio album will be the one that shows where the current trio is really at. Their next release will be a soundtrack.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

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I think the Sessions have been a mixed bag, too. The next studio album will be the one that shows where the current trio is really at. Their next release will be a soundtrack.

Hi,

For me they are great, and very much on par with the really early TD for me ...  I call it close your eyes and let it go ... and it's far out. The visuals are nice, but for me, they are not necessary ... I can close my eyes and fly better.

In all honesty, I think they are a bit of a thing that is making sure that TD stays on par with the incredible number of German folks releasing material these days that is quite influenced by earlier TD stuff and has the ability and knowhow to sound good. And some of that stuff (a lot of it is in Space Pirate Radio courtesy of many of the artists and a couple of labels) is way better than what TD has been doing since Edgar went on a permanent vacation ... and I think that Thorsten is smart enough to hear it and do something about it ... however, he has to make better use of Paul and Hoshiko, instead of them simply adding background to all his machines ... which, in this day and age, look rather ridiculous and unnecessary ... which might suggest that Thorsten is out of time and place, and while he can maintain with many of the current dignitaries, he is not as inventive as he thinks he is ... some of the stuff that he did with Marcus Reuter, Steve Roach and others is far superior to what TD has done, and has more "life" in it, than the stoic and rather copy'ish material TD has been doing.


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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence

IRIS CAMAA        Austrian percussionist and blonde bombshell Iris Claudia Martina Antonia Kulterer (better-known as Iris Camaa) was with Tangerine Dream from 2001 thru' to 2014,  but she also has a respectable solo career of her own with her particular brand of Soul-Jazz-Pop sounding nothing at all like Tangerine Dream. Oh, and she sings too! Yes, Iris Camaa truly is a Chameleon. Be prepared to be pleasantly surprised (or not, as the case may be). Iris's solo Dance-Pop albums may be resistible to many Tangerine Dream fans, unlike Iris herself, who's perfectly Irisistible.   Heart

3 stars 2015: Iris Camaa & Ariel Ramirez - Colsas Boas - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_knXrEnszKt1miXtHE-uPn2TTn4WnlwzI4



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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3 stars 2015: Iris Camaa & Ariel Ramirez - Colsas Boas - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l90KjzYebnrJNeKG58XoVGOHkgBj7Ifu8
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Hi,

Paul ... "this playlist is private".

There went my taste for Iris ... I'll just watch the TD videos, thank you!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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IRIS CAMAA  
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Hi,

Paul ... "this playlist is private".

There went my taste for Iris ... I'll just watch the TD videos, thank you!
Okay, thanks for letting me know. That's what happens when I copy and paste old links without checking if they still work. I've now updated all of Iris's albums with new links, making them as fresh as newly-laid eggs. Thumbs Up
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CHRIS HAUSL      German New Wave singer Chris Hausl only appeared on one Tangerine Dream studio album, but what an incredible album! Clap

5 stars 2007: Tangerine Dream - Madcap's Flaming Duty - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ARrzcnvG5I



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BERNHARD BEIBL      An Austrian guitarist par excellence who was one of the "famous five" during what is arguably Tangerine Dream's greatest live performance era from 2006 to 2014. Thumbs Up

Tangerine Dream's magnificent nine concerts with the fabulous five of Bernhard Beibl, Iris Camaa, Edgar Froese, Thorsten Quaeschning & Linda Spa  - Part One

5 stars  2006: Tangerine Dream - Tempodrome Berlin - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g48ZXWsFCoA


5 stars  2007: Tangerine Dream - Orange Odyssey - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_kdXiP3jQ8


5 stars  2007: Tangerine Dream - One Night in Space - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpEO2P38PM






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Tangerine Dream's magnificent nine concerts with the fabulous five of Bernhard Beibl, Iris Camaa, Edgar Froese, Thorsten Quaeschning & Linda Spa  - Part Two


5 stars 2008: Tangerine Dream - Live at Loreley - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wjCZ9fyyq0


5 stars 2009: Tangerine Dream - The London Eye Concert - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyzPGKH0U58


5 stars 2009: Tangerine Dream - Live in Los Angeles (DVD/Video) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5n72n3Syk






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Tangerine Dream's magnificent nine concerts with the fabulous five of Bernhard Beibl, Iris Camaa, Edgar Froese, Thorsten Quaeschning & Linda Spa  - Part Three


5 stars 2009: Tangerine Dream - Rocking Out the Bats - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEStd5YJdLs


5 stars 2010: Tangerine Dream - Zeitgeist: Live in Lisbon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thpd59FmvAE


5 stars 2012: Tangerine Dream - The Electric Mandarine Tour: The Zurich Switzerland Concert -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyiKD3YUEDI



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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence

THORSTEN QUAESCHNING      Anointed as the new leader of Tangerine Dream by Edgar Froese shortly before his death in early 2015, Thorsten Quaeschning has appeared on almost every Tangerine Dream album and in every live performance since joining the band in 2005.

4 stars 2017: Thorsten Quaeschning & Ulrich Schnauss - Synthwaves - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSkdJnxZZ1sDEKHjhmj6PBThrMW50DHzA
4 stars 2018: Thorsten Quaeschning - Cargo (soundtrack) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lLdnQMPvYzqjJP9_SUYmNfp1yiKmDWiZo
4 stars 2019: Thorsten Quaeschning - The Munich Session - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEV90CM1DQY
4 stars 2019: Thorsten Quaeschning Meets Paul Frick -The Seaside Stage - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mO7JnmFIMVofpp8_sukRiP4Dj5o3m1gM8
4 stars 2020: Thorsten Quaeschning - The Capitol Session - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kZjKDMW1ZD0GRrU5-9CzRqV5VFbgvHlXM
4 stars 2021: Thorsten Quaeschning - Was Nicht Sein Darf (soundtrack) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpsefmqklWmM7B_Cd_8d1Gc_72JFSQfEk



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Tangerine Dream's magnificent nine concerts with the fabulous five of Bernhard Beibl, Iris Camaa, Edgar Froese, Thorsten Quaeschning & Linda Spa  - Part Three
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5 stars 2010: Tangerine Dream - Zeitgeist: Live in Lisbon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thpd59FmvAE

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... and don't forget to whip that piano! LOL
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^ I'd forgotten about Edgar rudely interrupting Linda's piano-playing with a whip-crack-away. Tongue

Linda Spa uninterrupted at Berlin's Ballhaus

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ULRICH SCHNAUSS      A member of the contemporary Tangerine Dream trio (alongside Thorsten Quaeschning & Yoshiko Yamane) from 2014 to 2020, Ulrich Schnauss also has an extensive solo back-catalogue of Post Rock albums as well as working with various Shoegaze bands, delivering polished performances and with polished shoes to match, no doubt. Smile

3 stars 2001: Ulrich Schnauss - Faraway Trains Passing By - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL10d-p2PLQ-JBId_a6ZPxYdDaeWDu5001
3 stars 2003: Ulrich Schnauss - A Strangely Isolated Place - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9svsmx4XvM
4 stars 2010: Ulrich Schnauss & Jonas Munk - Epic - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_mE0TE9a-Y
3 stars 2012: Ulrich Schnauss & Mark Peters - Underrated Silence - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22Aa1wSmDcUyX0cKNRujETvTXM3B9Yj_
3 stars 2012: Ulrich Schnauss - A Long Way to Fall - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WujHGP0ojY
3 stars 2013: Ulrich Schnauss & Mark Peters - Tomorrow is Another Day - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_narrCPJ3JqxSOrecYl3XVi-shskOirPkI
3 stars 2016: Ulrich Schnauss - No Further Ahead Than Today - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0IpMAIz-CxTPcyFjV40wf7MrP0W0hrHU
4 stars 2017: Ulrich Schnauss & Thorsten Quaeschning - Synthwaves - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSkdJnxZZ1sDEKHjhmj6PBThrMW50DHzA
3 stars 2019: Ulrich Schnauss - Live in Madrid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ed4HQ4zoo
3 stars 2021: Ulrich Schnauss & Jonas Munk - Eight Fragments of an Illusion - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nBd2QyXpWF_GwJ9ZWVvqO7VOZAtLaDGEE
3 stars 2021: Ulrich Schnauss & Mark Peters - Destiny Waiving - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYuuR4oQq-QDcZue4fMZGO7daukxVb9zQ
3 stars 2021: Ulrich Schnauss - Now is a Timeless Present: A Retrospective - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpWojZK1ttkGe8sDcXoK34fUtpB5QLOMU





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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence

PAUL FRICK     Paul Frick is the newest addition to the Tangerine Dream line-up, having joined the TD trio in 2020, following the sudden departure of Ulrich Schnauss. Before that, Paul Frick had tried virtually EVERYTHING in the world of music, going from being a guitarist in a heavy metal band to a house music MC, a wannabe rapper, a jazzy keyboard player and a hip hopper to boot, before finally becoming the newest face in the electronic music scene by entering the frenetic pace of life on the road with Tangerine Dream, just before they embarked on their longest world tour in their entire career in 2023. Paul Frick has the notable distinction of being the only member of Tangerine Dream never to have met Edgar Froese. Shocked



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Tangerine Dream Team: Passed and Presence

PAUL FRICK     Paul Frick is the newest addition to the Tangerine Dream line-up, having joined the TD trio in 2020, following the sudden departure of Ulrich Schnauss. Before that, Paul Frick had tried virtually EVERYTHING in the world of music, going from being a guitarist in a heavy metal band to a house music MC, a wannabe rapper, a jazzy keyboard player and a hip hopper to boot, before finally becoming the newest face in the electronic music scene by entering the frenetic pace of life on the road with Tangerine Dream, just before they embarked on their longest world tour in their entire career in 2023. Paul Frick has the notable distinction of being the only member of Tangerine Dream never to have met Edgar Froese.


I'm still not sure he's a good addition. He doesn't stand out. I think he's there to fill the "third person" quota.
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