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Grumpyprogfan 
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 15:34 |
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The Wall 1 is better than TFC. Hey You is also better than anything on TFC. |
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verslibre
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 15:38 |
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I love SFTW (my favorite Tull album), Heavy Horses and Stormwatch, but I disagree HH is better than Songs. Still, all three are essential.
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verslibre
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 15:40 |
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I'm glad somebody else thinks this, too.
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 15:43 |
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I agree. 
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Zappastolethetowels
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 15:52 |
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I think Logan summarized the intent of such a thread up top to a valid degree. Based on your responses to Cristi, you appear to dislike the topic only when somebody starts to dust your band. I don't care if Rush hackles go over, under, sideways, or down because I stand by my opinion that Rush (up to Caress or FBN, whatever it was) did trite and uninspired 'prog'. What many consider their "classic period" sounds nothing different to me than what was to become prog metal (by numbers). Someone mentioned earlier I exaggerated the sameness of latter day metal, and that's prob true, but I left that genre after hearing enough of those same records in the first place
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JD
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:04 |
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:05 |
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I agree with you on Tull completely. Yes albums after drama are GOOD, some really good, but not really essential listening for a new prog fan. (Except for maybe 90125, it'd make a good entry point into the genre) |
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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verslibre
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:06 |
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Stopping with Heavy Horses means you miss out on Stormwatch, A and The Broadsword and the Beast.
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verslibre
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I'll give y'all a hot take:(function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'82d643228a767d4e',t:'MTcwMTIxMjc5NS4zODQwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; visibility: ;">
David Gilmour's self-titled is the best solo album from a Floyd alum.
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Zappastolethetowels
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:07 |
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If you want another hot take: regardless of the viability and effectiveness of a "big 6" or whatever, Rush don't belong anywhere near a top 10 list of great prog bands (unless you're judging popularity). Without Rush, there would be no Dream Theater, Tool, Transatlantic, Spocks B, Pain of S, and all the like. Also... contemporary prog (your Opeths, Flower Kings, Wobblers, and Steven Wilsons) is no renaissance! Sorry folks... |
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:08 |
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Tarkus and Trilogy are my favorite ELP albums. is that a hot take?
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Zappastolethetowels
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Regarding 2 of my favorite artists.... Tull were a heavy folk-rock band with a prog period in between. Zappa was the most unique artist of all in bringing an influx of styles and blending them with rock! True genius!
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Psychedelic Paul
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The 1990's was the best YES era.
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:18 |
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Totally agree here and definitely not a hot take.
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JD
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:18 |
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Prog spelled backwards is Gorp, and that is seriously close to the sound people make when I play them Univers Zero's Heresie.
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Zappastolethetowels
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:20 |
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Not at all
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:24 |
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Of the first 5, my list goes Brain Salad Surgery Emerson, Lake and Palmer Tarkus Pictures at an Exhibition Trilogy |
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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Logan
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:25 |
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I have liked to use the term gorp for regressive (retro, backwards) Prog. I once tried to burp but could only manage a gorp. |
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 16:26 |
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I discovered Rush rather late, I didn't know much about their popularity, I just enjoyed the music. Tool and Pain of Salvation are not influenced by Rush, King crimson is the prog band that was a big influence on Tool. Early Pain of Salvation albums were described back in the day as a mix of Yes and Faith No More, which was more or less true. Dream Theater, Spock's Beard and the TFK sound have influences beyond Rush, so I think these musicians would have played some kind of progressive rock anyway.
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