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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Offline Points: 3104 |
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Just because they use vintage instruments doesn't mean Wobbler is that amazing (they're alright).
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21680 |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46215 |
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I disagree about Rush being "trite and uninspired". Constantly?! I don't think so. They have some albums more inspired and creative than others, like any other band, but "trite"? No way. Also, Rush was not the only inspiration for what would become progressive metal. Even in progressive metal, there is a diversity, everything sounding the same is an exaggeration.
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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That is not the correct spelling
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5797 |
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I considered the username ChristianVanderGraaf for this forum actually.
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I prophesy disaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 31 2017 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 4962 |
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Perhaps. Maybe I'm biased but I think the spelling of "Van der Graaf Generator" is more appealing than the correct spelling "Van de Graaff Generator". |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12821 |
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For me, I rather dislike Gabriel as a singer, and I prefer Phil Collin singing. I'm not fond of John Wetton singing either. I prefer the drumming of Chris Maitland in Coma Divine than that of Gavin Harrison in all his Porcupine Tree albums. I like The Division Bell better than Dark Side of the Moon. I think Roger Waters is a good singer.
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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Well... see... I think Rush get more credit than they deserve in the prog acolyte circle - it's nothing but washed metal production and relentless riffage; when they tried to prog they sounded trite and uninspired. Thanks to Rush, the following decades of 'prog' metal became 'prog' by numbers; where's the prog if everything sounds the same?! I don't deny any of them being superb musicians, but technicality doesn't imply originality or evocativeness.
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5797 |
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Desolation Rose is The Flower Kings' best album.
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Hugh Manatee ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 07 2021 Location: The Barricades Status: Offline Points: 1587 |
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Everyone should have the same taste in music as me.
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I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of uncertain seas |
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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I've seen some comments from some fans saying it lacks inspiration. To me, it's a great piece of music, full of inspiration and exciting.
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Frets N Worries ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 30 2023 Location: Your Basement Status: Offline Points: 4258 |
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Comment received, the Eagles are one of the greatest bands of all time. And never made a bad song (not Prog, even they had a couple proggy moments here and there 'Journey of the Sorcerer') In terms of Prog.. Starless and Buble Black over LTIA, and Islands over Lizard |
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19162 |
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No, King Crimson didn't invent prog because no one band or artist did. It's only a clone band if a band sets out to try to sound as much as a band as possible. I think Unifaun might be the only band who qualifies in that regard (as a Genesis clone although I never actually heard them). What was the best decade for TD then? The 80s? I won't comment on the others.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29928 |
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It's okay to be passionate for a band (too much praise is never a bad thing)
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12689 |
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^War Child is a great album!
IQ gets too much praise, and Peter Nicholls singing is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Edited by Grumpyprogfan - November 28 2023 at 05:02 |
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Frets N Worries ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 30 2023 Location: Your Basement Status: Offline Points: 4258 |
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^Oh no, I STRONGLY dislike that album. Bored me to tears. Same with The Final Cut (Floyd's worst album by a MILE)
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29928 |
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both are very highly rated in the Tull canon I'm waiting for someone to say War Child is their best album
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38100 |
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Hot take, or at least pretty warm: Magma never bettered its 1970 debut, and it's the peak of Magma. But MDK is more quotable (as a cold take).
Cool take: Had Christian Vander guested on an album with Peter Hammill and friends, Vander Graaf Generator would have been a cool name. Luke-warm take: Had Christian Vander teamed up on a film with Mark Hamill as his uncle Peter Hammill's brother, Darth Vander, it would have been cool. Darth Vander: "Luke, Kobaïa is de Hündïn, kreühn köhrmahn iss de hündïn..." Luke Skywalker: "Noooooooooo!" |
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Frets N Worries ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 30 2023 Location: Your Basement Status: Offline Points: 4258 |
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Not sure how unpopular this is, but Heavy Horses > Songs from the Wood
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29928 |
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Six Wives Of Henry VIII is the best instrumental prog album Supertramp were a full on prog band Tangerine Dream made better albums after the 70's Eloy were the best prog band between 1973 and 1982 'Clone bands' is not a thing Alternative music is not prog King Crimson didn't invent prog rock |
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