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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ would be interesting to compare it to what other great musicians put out when they are/were close to 80 years old.

Yes, Roger just turned 80 in September and that's surely something to celebrate. After all, I don't know of any musicians who are still Rocking All Over the World at the grand old age of 80. Not even Status Quo. Smile


I just listened to; well, more like endured it, and I have to say you are really stretching the word "rocking".

Maybe next he'll do Animals in Esperanto to sound even more like William Shatner.

Do a search...there are many
Jagger, Mcartney, Willie Nelson, Dylan, Neil Young...just to name a few ......and they actually play rock.Wink


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Roger did NOT do this classic album any favours with his moody re-interpretation. I found it hard to listen through.
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Honestly, it's made many of us go and re evaluate the original in a better light.
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It's been a while since many of us have listened to it
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The only reason for me is that he wants to keep telling the world that he and he alone is responsible for that music and that he manipulates it according to his mood. Unnecessary and to some extent a desperate way to stay relevant without measuring the cost. 


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The only reason for me is that he wants to keep telling the world that he and he alone is responsible for that music and that he manipulates it according to his mood. Unnecessary and to some extent a desperate way to stay relevant without measuring the cost. 



Well, I would say he rather made it very clear that the rest of the band were very important for the music of the album.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

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The only reason for me is that he wants to keep telling the world that he and he alone is responsible for that music and that he manipulates it according to his mood. Unnecessary and to some extent a desperate way to stay relevant without measuring the cost. 



Well, I would say he rather made it very clear that the rest of the band were very important for the music of the album.

I agree. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Roger did this re-working of DSOTM just to piss off David Gilmour. 
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Originally posted by Hector Enrique Hector Enrique wrote:

The only reason for me is that he wants to keep telling the world that he and he alone is responsible for that music and that he manipulates it according to his mood. Unnecessary and to some extent a desperate way to stay relevant without measuring the cost. 

Maybe he just felt like doing it? Does there have to be an ulterior motive? What if DG decided to do a DSOTM Redux version, would we be here discussing whether it is to piss off RW?

(I guess we would, because this is the internetLOL)



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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Hector Enrique Hector Enrique wrote:

The only reason for me is that he wants to keep telling the world that he and he alone is responsible for that music and that he manipulates it according to his mood. Unnecessary and to some extent a desperate way to stay relevant without measuring the cost. 

Maybe he just felt like doing it? Does there have to be an ulterior motive? What if DG decided to do a DSOTM Redux version, would we be here discussing whether it is to piss off RW?

(I guess we would, because this is the internetLOL)


What would David reduce in his Redux version?! His own guitar solos? LOL 
Roger's new reworking is minimal, and not in a good way. Just trying to give it a listen, made me think " this is disrespectful to the other three PF members". But Roger has had a bone to pick with them since the Wall days, with Rick even earlier. 
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^ Disagree, respectfully.
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^ Disagree, respectfully.

You have to be more specific, what did i say there is it wrong? 
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I meant what exactly do you disagree with in what I said there. 

Nick thinks it's brilliant?! Good for him. Is this supposed to change my opinion?!

If you liked the album, it's fine, not the issue here. 
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Roger Water's Lockdown Sessions was a brilliant 5-star album, but I only gave Roger's Dark Side of the Moon Redux a modest 3-star rating - and that was being generous. Disapprove 
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I meant what exactly do you disagree with in what I said there. 

Nick thinks it's brilliant?! Good for him. Is this supposed to change my opinion?!

If you liked the album, it's fine, not the issue here. 

It contradicts your  "this is disrespectful to the other three PF members" remark, doesn't it? One passed away, the other one probably doesn't like it, the third one loves it. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Roger Water's Lockdown Sessions was a brilliant 5-star album, but I only gave Roger's Dark Side of the Moon Redux a modest 3-star rating - and that was being generous. Disapprove 

Same here! I think there's nothing wrong with being generous to a 80 years old musician who is still rocking on stage (with his general show, earlier this year, that was essentially the Lockdown Sessions Live). Smile
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^ Hardly objective. Who wrote the review? Why should it trump opinions by, for example, Nick Mason and Mike Portnoy? It reeks of bias towards RW as a person.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I would be more specific if I had more than 24 hours in a day Tongue


I meant what exactly do you disagree with in what I said there. 

Nick thinks it's brilliant?! Good for him. Is this supposed to change my opinion?!

If you liked the album, it's fine, not the issue here. 

It contradicts your  "this is disrespectful to the other three PF members" remark, doesn't it? One passed away, the other one probably doesn't like it, the third one loves it. 

Even knowing that Nick likes the redux version, I still think the same thing. Roger treats the original DSOTM like it's his achievement, and not the band's (4 musicians). 

Listening to the redux version made me miss Rick and David especially. Rick that sings on two songs, wrote most of Us & Them with Roger (his lyrics) and Great Gig in the Sky was his song. 

The magic is gone on the redux version. On the original album, Roger, David and Rick sing. That's one great thing about it, they complement each other greatly. On the redux version, just a grumpy old man, at least that's how it feels. 

(For example, the main reason why i disliked Dream Theater's version of DSOTM was that only LaBrie does the singing, and it does not have three vocals interaction like the original album does). 
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Hardly objective. Who wrote the review? Why should it trump opinions by, for example, Nick Mason and Mike Portnoy? It reeks of bias towards RW as a person.

No reviews are objective, every one is an opinion piece. It's a blog I assume.
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