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David_D
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Most of all the straight Progressive Metal with more or less clean vocals I've heard has seemed to me having rather synthetic sound and/or being Pop-influenced while I like it best organic and only little poppish at most. So far, I've only found these albums of about that kind and which I could like: Fates Warning (USA) - The Spectre Within (1985) Voivod (CAN) - Nothingface (1989) Psychotic Waltz (USA) - Into the Everflow (1992) Tool (USA) - Lateralus (2001) Taal (F) - Skymind (2003) Indukti (PL) - S.U.S.A.R. (2004) Riverside (PL) - Second Life Syndrome (2005) Can you recommend any other albums of that kind? - And please only that kind (organic, non-poppish and straight Progressive Metal with more or less clean vocals), it's important. I'm also curious about how many of such albums have been made. Thanks! Edit: and now plus Thought Industry (USA) - Songs for Insects (1992) Edited by David_D - January 25 2024 at 09:01 |
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I recommend Mind Over Four The Goddess (1990) and Half Way Down (1993).
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Thanks, the cover and the (even few) ratings of Half Way Down look promising to me, so I'll definitely give it a listen.
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For prog-thrash in the vein of classic Voivod, I would recommend:
Coroner - No More Color, Mental Vortex Tourniquet - Psycho Surgery Target - Master Project Genesis Also, if you're ok with vocals that are a bit harsher, I'd recommend "Tribe" by Sadist. Absolutely fantastic prog-death album... imagine Cynic's first album, but with even wackier keyboards
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A very under-recognized band. I was surprised to see they were on PA. Another band/album from that time period, with a similar but more experimental vibe, is Thought Industry Songs for Insects (1992). |
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I guess, I better add that I'm looking for the "Progressive Metal" the way it's defined and labeled by RYM, and is the more straight Prog Metal. Edited by David_D - August 29 2023 at 11:53 |
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After two listenings, I find this album almost amazingly creative due to its many different influences and large complexity. Also definitely interesting, so I'll give it some more spins and see what I further think and how much I like it. |
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^ Frankly speaking, the band name alone is too silly to me. Edit: Anyway, it inspired me to give King Gizzard a new listen with another album, and this one too. Edited by David_D - August 29 2023 at 04:17 |
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I'm not sure if my recommendation satisfies your requirements, but a favourite metal album of mine is "Crack the Skye" by Mastodon. They are listed in PA under Tech/Extreme Prog Metal, so I guess that means they do have tracks with growling vocals. On "Crack the Skye", there is only one track with growling vocals. The vocals on the other tracks are not necessarily clean, but they are not growling. I especially love the Sabbathesque sound of a number of their tracks. The two tracks below are highlights for me:
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Yes, it's about the kind I'm looking for, and it's also about to become one of the greatest Prog Metal classics, so it's very good to include it here. I can thus certainly understand your fondness of this album too, I'm afraid though that personally, I don't find it to be that good or particularly original. - But I may give it some more spins and see what I then think. It would be a nice addition to my Metal collection, even I'm not very fond of the flashy and very colourful artwork, and can't get it fit with the music.
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This thread may so far seem to confirm my up till now experience that albums of organic, non-Poppish and more straight Progressive Metal with fairly clean vocals have not been made in a very large number.
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Or some have not understood your initial post. Non-poppish?! What does that even mean? What kind of vocals are those?! Catchy vocals does not equal pop vocals. And what kind of pop vocals? Classic pop? Modern pop? Fairly clean? Clean vocals but not that clean? Does Pain Of Salvation qualify? They got an amazing vocalist, and their songwriting I find excellent. Riverside has catchy vocals, and yet you listed an album of theirs. |
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Not the albums I've heard, too sentimental, and Riverside's Second Life Syndrome is on the borderline.
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^ may I suggest you buy a microphone and record your vacuum cleaning session? Totally unique, definitely not sentimental, and no growling vocals either. Try to do funny walks, that will also take care of complex time signatures!
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How are the vocals too sentimental?! What have you listened to come to such a conclusion?! Explore the progressive metal lists and its subgenres, go to youtube and search a few titles, listen a little bit and get back to us. I don't know...
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^ this seems like a really sophisticated form of trolling - have the busy helpers scramble and provide suggestions, only to reject most of them.
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Sorry for having other tastes and preferences than yours.
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^ I mean, it doesn't help that your original criteria was so hyper-specific. You're not really gonna find a lot of artists in such a narrow field of options like that
Most of the non-"synthetic" prog metal artists fall into prog-death or prog-thrash territory, the majority of which use harsh vocals Also, I find it interesting that you don't want maudlin or sentimental vocals, but then put Lateralus on your list. Don't get me wrong, I love Lateralus, but it's pretty poppy/alternative-leaning for prog metal
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Thanks for this interesting input, Necrotica. |
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