Roger Waters Time Redux

MikeEnRegalia wrote: DG is pure esoteric bullcrap on his own.

It's a bit naive to think that RW's comments on Ukraine have anything to do with people disliking this. Don't get me wrong - I'm sure it doesn't help. But the whole idea of doing this in the first place, the fact that he's doing this as a middle finger to the other 3 members (which is probably enough to turn most people off), and the simply dreadful end result is enough to ensure it would've gotten the same negative reception no matter RW's personal beliefs. If anything, the fact that one of the few people here who seems to support RW's views is also one of the few who who doesn't think this is complete garbage is more suspect.

Dellinger wrote: And before that, I remember DG selling/donating a house he had, in London I think, for charity too... for homeless children I think.

The Dark Elf wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: The Dark Elf wrote: I think it is a tragic last gasp of a bitter old man trying desperately to rewrite his own history. Make no mistake, there is nothing "progressive" about this remake, and let's be honest, remakes are inherently diametrically opposed to any hint of progressiveness. Waters' failed attempt at continued relevance has proven how irrelevant he has become.  Let me put it this way: With his touring and political activism he is much more relevant than David Gilmour, even if you don’t agree with any of his activities.  I wasn't aware being a tw*t somehow translates to "political activism". David Gilmour? He is evidently far more comfortable being himself and aging gracefully -- he obviously has nothing to prove to anyone or himself.  As for his activism, Gilmour auctioned off his entire guitar collection and donated the proceeds to charity ($21.5 million) just a few years ago, and in 2022 he reformed Pink Floyd to release "Hey Hey Rise Up' For support of the Ukraine. The single raised more than $600,000 for humanitarian aid.  He's also not trying to rewrite Echoes or Wish You Were Here as death marches. He seems very happy being with family. You know, being a loving human, not a miserable old git. Here's a link to his charities... https://www.davidgilmour.com/charity.htm

And before that, I remember him selling/donating a house he had, in London I think, for charity too... for homeless children I think.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: What would be your favorite DG recording of the last 10-15 years?

Bland, boring. And again he could not keep his mouth shut and had to blabber his amazing ideas about society and what not. But the most telling of the motive of the redux is the not so small detail of not including a guitar solo, ergo, erasing any credit to Gilmour, pitiful to the max. 

The Dark Elf wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: The Dark Elf wrote: I think it is a tragic last gasp of a bitter old man trying desperately to rewrite his own history. Make no mistake, there is nothing "progressive" about this remake, and let's be honest, remakes are inherently diametrically opposed to any hint of progressiveness. Waters' failed attempt at continued relevance has proven how irrelevant he has become.  Let me put it this way: With his touring and political activism he is much more relevant than David Gilmour, even if you don’t agree with any of his activities.  I wasn't aware being a tw*t somehow translates to "political activism". David Gilmour? He is evidently far more comfortable being himself and aging gracefully -- he obviously has nothing to prove to anyone or himself.  As for his activism, Gilmour auctioned off his entire guitar collection and donated the proceeds to charity ($21.5 million) just a few years ago, and in 2022 he reformed Pink Floyd to release "Hey Hey Rise Up' For support of the Ukraine. The single raised more than $600,000 for humanitarian aid.  He's also not trying to rewrite Echoes or Wish You Were Here as death marches. He seems very happy being with family. You know, being a loving human, not a miserable old git. Here's a link to his charities... https://www.davidgilmour.com/charity.htm

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ Relax, I believe you! I don't like them either, compared to how much I like the original.

^ Relax, I believe you! I don't like them either, compared to how much I like the original.