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Never touched the stuff. Can't stand it, and I wish my offspring were the same.

It stinks, it perpetuates a horribly nasty criminal enterprise (even in countries where it is legal), and I have personally always preferred to use the brain God gave me in order to "understand" (man) the music.

In other news, I have not had a cigarette since March 2022, either. I really do believe I have beaten it this time.
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^Maybe your offspring say the same about having several pints a day at the pub.

Congrats on stopping the tobacco.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2023 at 09:23
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Maybe your offspring say the same about having several pints a day at the pub.

Congrats on stopping the tobacco.

LOL Actually, he is stopping with us at the moment, and he does enjoy a couple of beers himself.
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The cobweb with the effect of mirijuana... Sort of like butterfly-shaped. You know, flying, being high etc. Party

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^ When I was a kid, the anti-drug programs at school would show us similar spider webs and say they were caused by LSD.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2023 at 09:27
Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

The cobweb with the effect of mirijuana... Sort of like butterfly-shaped. You know, flying, being high etc. Party

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What this tells me is that drugs can help break the cycle of OCD and free the mind to be creative, not redundant.
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^I like the way you think, JD.

I would like to see a meth, opioid, and alcohol spider web.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Never touched the stuff. Can't stand it, and I wish my offspring were the same.

It stinks, it perpetuates a horribly nasty criminal enterprise (even in countries where it is legal), and I have personally always preferred to use the brain God gave me in order to "understand" (man) the music.


Howould you know if you've never tried it? TongueWink

In the NL, the Weed trade was "given" to the bikers (HA or Bandidos) , so they'd have something to live legal & declared upon, but unfortunately after a couple of decade, they "expanded" to other substances

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Never touched the stuff. Can't stand it, and I wish my offspring were the same.

It stinks, it perpetuates a horribly nasty criminal enterprise (even in countries where it is legal), and I have personally always preferred to use the brain God gave me in order to "understand" (man) the music.


Howould you know if you've never tried it? TongueWink

In the NL, the Weed trade was "given" to the bikers (HA or Bandidos) , so they'd have something to live legal & declared upon, but unfortunately after a couple of decade, they "expanded" to other substances

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Ha.

Also interesting that Rick's biggest song is where he tries to sound like Roger Hodgson.
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I'm glad that it's moving out of the hands of criminals in the US, but it's old hat to me and I'd rather spend my remaining years with a fully conscious mind.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Never touched the stuff. Can't stand it, and I wish my offspring were the same.

It stinks, it perpetuates a horribly nasty criminal enterprise (even in countries where it is legal), and I have personally always preferred to use the brain God gave me in order to "understand" (man) the music.

In other news, I have not had a cigarette since March 2022, either. I really do believe I have beaten it this time.

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I tried it as a teen, around 1981. Did not like the experience...AT ALL! I have never smoked cigs so that has never been an issue for me.....I too am of the camp that legalizing this drug has/will not improve anything. Again, politicians promise of the huge windfall of sales tax money that was to improve/build schools and God knows what other BS they mentioned to get it passed........Seems all those promises went up in smoke LOL.

I smell it everywhere I go now, that sh&t stinks! Remember that TV advert.......

 
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Leave the spiders alone.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Never touched the stuff. Can't stand it, and I wish my offspring were the same.

It stinks, it perpetuates a horribly nasty criminal enterprise (even in countries where it is legal), and I have personally always preferred to use the brain God gave me in order to "understand" (man) the music.

In other news, I have not had a cigarette since March 2022, either. I really do believe I have beaten it this time.

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I tried it as a teen, around 1981. Did not like the experience...AT ALL! I have never smoked cigs so that has never been an issue for me.....I too am of the camp that legalizing this drug has/will not improve anything. Again, politicians promise of the huge windfall of sales tax money that was to improve/build schools and God knows what other BS they mentioned to get it passed........Seems all those promises went up in smoke LOL.

Maybe where you live it went up in smoke, but that's not the case in many places:

For the record I don't really have a strong opinion about this topic. I have never smoked anything my entire life.
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I don't give a flying F#@K about the politicians desire for revenues. As long as I can grow my own it gives me more disposable income to buy the stuff I either need or want...there's your economic benefit.
Next, as long as I can grow my own, I don't support criminal organizations. There's your social improvement component.

I drank from 13 to 26, then told that 5h!t to go f#@k itself.
I tried smoking cigarettes for about three weeks in the summer of 1970 (I was 12). I told that 5h!t to go f#@k itself.

Cannabis is a satisfying addition to my every day consumptions. But like all consumptions it's about moderation and consideration for those around you. I don't diss those who drink, provided it's responsible.
I have absolutely no use for tobacco smoking but can understand why someone might be predisposed to that particular addiction. I just wish they'd treat that addiction with gum or patches vs actual smoking. Maybe it's not the same thing. And I guess vaping is just the backwoods cousin to tobacco.



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^ Hey a normal, viced, hip stoner who listens to prog.   As it should be.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Leave the spiders alone.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2023 at 06:32
I had a bad experience with it. I started smoking pot as a teen and it got to the point where I could smoke a zillion joints and it would not get me that stoned, and thus it lead to harder stuff (lsd, mushrooms, peyote, angel dust, uppers and downers)
         I am proud to say that I recently celebrated my 40th year completely free of pot and all street drugs! The best decision I ever made. And of all the people I used to get stoned with decades ago, most of them are still getting high to this day.
          Well, that's my story in a nutshell.
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Hi,

I can't say that I have had a bad experience with any of it, but mostly, I was rather on the conservative side of this whole thing right through the late 60's, and into the 70's. 

In the 70's a lot of the music that was being released was done almost strictly to appease the getting stoned crowd, and my thoughts were that a lot of the music was simply not important or had much value within a socio/politico/philosophical context. 

For me, doing any drug taking, was about the inner experience, and having read Aldous Huxley, I understood what was being said about the chair or the piano legs (for example) and many other things, and later I decided that exploring that side was interesting, however, I made friends with a "psychic" and lecturer, with an incredible ability and who was doing a lot of very important jobs with it at the time, which he would not divulge then, but 20/30 years later explained a wee bit ... they included IBM, Apple, AMD, Intel, and even Microsoft, in their attempt to "find out" about the future, and how to be prepared for it. 

It was then that I undertook an "internal" study of things, which would take me through many "occult" books, and through other novelistic approaches (Castaneda), only to find out ... the most important comment about it all from don Juan in one of the later books ... was the dope necessary? No, but we had to shut you up so you could see something else!

The "dope" is not for people on the search, who don't need it. But it is used by many folks that don't care either way ... although my neighbor has Parkinson's and he needs it (medical clearance) to help keep his headaches down ... and be able to even get some sleep.

But other than that example, I'm against it, and hope that people understand the fallacy behind it all ... it isn't for everybody and should be measured out with care and responsibility!


Edited by moshkito - August 17 2023 at 08:16
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