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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81017

Label: Island
Format: Vinyl, CD, Cassette, Digital
May 24, 2023

- Russell Mael / vocals, engineering, mixing
- Ron Mael / keyboards, programming, orchestrations, mixing

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E&O Team: Thanks Mayer, done.



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The track listing for Exit Stage Left by Rush does not include "A Passage to Bangkok." This song was on the original lp but was left off the first cd pressing so maybe that's why it's not listed. However, it is on the cd reissue so I think it should be added back in for the track listing of that album on here. It is track number four so it should be between "YYZ" and "Closer to the Heart."


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^ Thanks, done.


According to Wikipedia:
The original CD issue removed "A Passage to Bangkok", as CDs could only hold 75 minutes at the time. It was included on the 1997 remaster, as CD capacity had increased to 80 minutes by that time. Before the remastered version was released, the same live version of "A Passage to Bangkok" was released on the compilation Chronicles in 1990.


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https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=12487

New entry that says from the United States but at the biography the 1st sentence " Hailing from Ontario, Canada" so Canada does NOT belong to the United States
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^ LOL LOL you're right !

Thanks, done.
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ Thanks, done.


According to Wikipedia:
The original CD issue removed "A Passage to Bangkok", as CDs could only hold 75 minutes at the time. It was included on the 1997 remaster, as CD capacity had increased to 80 minutes by that time. Before the remastered version was released, the same live version of "A Passage to Bangkok" was released on the compilation Chronicles in 1990.

Well, it was included on the original vinyl release too. Does PA prefer the cds over vinyl when considering what to list? 
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^ You're right. So the entry is correct (see Releases information). What's your point?
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ You're right. So the entry is correct (see Releases information). What's your point?

It wasn't a point it was a question. I'll ask again in a different way. If you had a choice between listing the original vinyl or the original cd track listing which one does PA default to? 
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^ Sorry, I didn't understand it was a question... Embarrassed

I think PA should list the first release as the main release. After all, we are Prog Archives.

So if the vinyl came before the CD ---> list the vinyl first (with notes about the CD bonus tracks or omissions).

If the vinyl & CD came at the same time ---> list both if they have different tracks listings.

This is only my opinion, not an official rule...

Does it answer your question? Can you give some examples of ambiguous cases?
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=12487

New entry that says from the United States but at the biography the 1st sentence " Hailing from Ontario, Canada" so Canada does NOT belong to the United States
Embarrassed Sorry but no idea why this entry added as a US combo by me ...
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=78555

1. Mind Out of Mind (9:46)
2. Good-Looking (3:57)
3. In the Lost & Found (8:13)
4. Time Will Tell (2:05)
5. Tell Me the Lore (4:43)
6. Millipede Man (4:33)
7. Answers in the Glass (8:13)
8. Good-Looking (Radio Version) (3:56)

Total Time 45:26

- Jeffrey Carlson / vocals, guitars, bass, keyboards
- Chad Fjerstad / vocals, bass, keyboards
- Timothy Java / drums

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- Jake Wagner / backing vocals & harmonies

They changed the cover, see it here: https://kmono.bandcamp.com/album/mind-out-of-mind
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^ Thanks Mayer, done.
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ Sorry, I didn't understand it was a question... Embarrassed

I think PA should list the first release as the main release. After all, we are Prog Archives.

So if the vinyl came before the CD ---> list the vinyl first (with notes about the CD bonus tracks or omissions).

If the vinyl & CD came at the same time ---> list both if they have different tracks listings.

This is only my opinion, not an official rule...

Does it answer your question? Can you give some examples of ambiguous cases?

Well, for that Rush album (Exit...Stage Left) it was the track listing for the original cd version and not the vinyl version that was listed (since the song I mentioned was on the original vinyl). That's why I asked. Wink 

No, I don't have any other examples except the one I mentioned. No big deal. I was just wondering. Thanks for explaining.


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^ This entry was wrong, simply because it's a 1981 release, and the tracks listing was from a 1990 reissue. There's no debate here... Wink
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ This entry was wrong, simply because it's a 1981 release, and the tracks listing was from a 1990 reissue. There's no debate here... Wink

Yes, the 1990 cd reissue. Not the 1981 vinyl.You said yourself "So if the vinyl came before the CD ---> list the vinyl first."Wink Anyway, you did fix it so no need to keep going around in circles here. Wink


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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=80710

- Fedor Kivokurtsev / guitars, vocals, keyboards, production

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- Alexey Zaytsev / bass

- Alexander Kulkov / drums


Cover: Viktoria Kurcheva

Format: Digital (Name your price on Bandcamp)

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^ Thanks Mayer, done. Smile
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About Lito Vitale's Sobre Miedos, Creencias y Supersticiones:
PA is indicating the following musicians as the ones on this record:
Lito Vitale: keyboards, composition and arrangements
Manuel Miranda: saxophone, traverse flute, kena, antaras and tarkas
Marcelo Torres: bass
Jota Morelli: Simmons drums.

I have the CD and it is quite sure that they participated on the bonus tracks, but they're not quoted as the members on Sobre Miedos...
It's written on the booklet that Lito Vitale was responsible for the composition, arrangements AND interpretation (that's the exact word) of Sobre Miedos. This is confirmed by the site discogs.com.

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Originally posted by arymenezes arymenezes wrote:

About Lito Vitale's Sobre Miedos, Creencias y Supersticiones:
PA is indicating the following musicians as the ones on this record:
Lito Vitale: keyboards, composition and arrangements
Manuel Miranda: saxophone, traverse flute, kena, antaras and tarkas
Marcelo Torres: bass
Jota Morelli: Simmons drums.

I have the CD and it is quite sure that they participated on the bonus tracks, but they're not quoted as the members on Sobre Miedos...
It's written on the booklet that Lito Vitale was responsible for the composition, arrangements AND interpretation (that's the exact word) of Sobre Miedos. This is confirmed by the site discogs.com.

Thank you.
Ary.

Thanks Ary, what do you think of this?

Also, I think the release year was 1981, not 1980. But not 100% sure.


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Updated track listing, line-up, and releases information for "Chameleon Shapeshifter" by Antony Kalugin.

A:
1. Chameleon (19:40)

B:
2. Shapeshifter (6:06)
3. Exceptional Chamel Ballard (7:48)
4. House on the Hill (4:04)
5. Wonderous Glory (4:50)
6. Key (bonus track) (4:16)

Line-up:
- Antony Kalugin / keys, vox, percussion, guitars, programming
- Max Velychko / acoustic & electric guitars
- Ivan Goritski / drums
- Oleg Prokhorov / bass guitar
- Yan Vedaman / tenor & soprano saxophones
- Elena Kushiy / flute
- Olha Rostovska / vox
- Sergii Kovalov / knob accordion, vox


Releases Information:

Arrangements, Artwork Design, Layout, Mixing & Mastering: Antony Kalugin
Paintings: Igor Sokolskiy
Poetry: Stuart Watkins
Lyrics: Stuart Watkins (from the book “Cosmic Visions”)
Antony's Photo: Olha Rostovska

Composed & Recorded: March - August 2021
Released: September 24, 2021


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=73380
Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/release/20442133-Antony-Kalugin-Chameleon-Shapeshifter/image/SW1hZ2U6NjY3MTkxNzk=
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