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^ You're right. So the entry is correct (see Releases information). What's your point?
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ Thanks, done.


According to Wikipedia:
The original CD issue removed "A Passage to Bangkok", as CDs could only hold 75 minutes at the time. It was included on the 1997 remaster, as CD capacity had increased to 80 minutes by that time. Before the remastered version was released, the same live version of "A Passage to Bangkok" was released on the compilation Chronicles in 1990.

Well, it was included on the original vinyl release too. Does PA prefer the cds over vinyl when considering what to list? 
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^ LOL LOL you're right !

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https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=12487

New entry that says from the United States but at the biography the 1st sentence " Hailing from Ontario, Canada" so Canada does NOT belong to the United States
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^ Thanks, done.


According to Wikipedia:
The original CD issue removed "A Passage to Bangkok", as CDs could only hold 75 minutes at the time. It was included on the 1997 remaster, as CD capacity had increased to 80 minutes by that time. Before the remastered version was released, the same live version of "A Passage to Bangkok" was released on the compilation Chronicles in 1990.


Edited by projeKct - May 27 2023 at 14:06
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The track listing for Exit Stage Left by Rush does not include "A Passage to Bangkok." This song was on the original lp but was left off the first cd pressing so maybe that's why it's not listed. However, it is on the cd reissue so I think it should be added back in for the track listing of that album on here. It is track number four so it should be between "YYZ" and "Closer to the Heart."


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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81017

Label: Island
Format: Vinyl, CD, Cassette, Digital
May 24, 2023

- Russell Mael / vocals, engineering, mixing
- Ron Mael / keyboards, programming, orchestrations, mixing

With:
- Instrumentation & musicians could not be verified at this time. If you have information, please contact the site

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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=78512

1. C-scape (3:09)
2. Circumnavigation East-West (4:08)
3. Derién Gap (1001 Demons) (6:02)
4. Easy Street (2:19)
5. Egregore (4:20)
6. Fabula and Syuzhet (3:25)
7. Fairmead (3:15)
8. Gas Giant (4:57)
9. A Never Ending Now (4:12)
10. Attenuation Deficit (5:19)
11. Before-fore Times (2:41)
12. Between Scylla and Charybdis (6:32)

Total Time 50:18

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^ Thanks Mayer, done.
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=78272

1. If I Don`t Take it All (3:25)
2. Eliminate and Repair (4:52)
3. This is My New Normal (3:49)
4. Devotion Made to Offend (4:12)
5. Silent Saw (3:25)
6. Throne (4:31)
7. Don't Say a Word to Me (5:03)
8. Mayhem (3:44)
9. Lying (4:01)
10. Wake Up (5:06)

Total Time 42:08
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^ Nice finds, David. Thanks.

So I updated the album, with three distinct release dates.
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^ It seems that 'The Water' was first released in 2002 as a CDr.

RYM lists the 2002 CDr as the primary release, YouTube (via TuneCore) also says 2002 (℗ 2002 Caerllysi Music, Released on: 2002-02-20), similarly Last.fm.

Progplanet did an interview with Antony in 2006, where he was asked about his journey in music. His reply contained this:

"My first try was in '89 when I recorded my first album. Had a lot of musicians with me in 2000 and made a concept album. But there was no money in it, so the musicians ran away. Then there were a period of silence. I started making new age music, which made some money and made it possible for me, to get free of my father, who did not believe in what I was doing."

Antony Kalugin's old website listed 'The Water' as his sole New Age release in May 2008, with it awaiting re-release at that time (which was done via Caerllysi Music that year). Since he stated in the earlier interview that he made some money from his new age music, he must have sold some CDrs of 'The Water' from 2002 onwards before he teamed up with Caerllysi Music and re-released it via them.

Antony also commented on facebook in January 2014, when 'The Water' album went up on Bandcamp, that it was his first release in 2002: https://www.facebook.com/kfg.music/posts/205290723005491?comment_id=205291146338782.

'The Water' album is also included as part of a 2019 Karfagen 4CD package called 'The Key to Perception', and the cover image also shows its release year as 2002.

So, all this being considered, I would tend to agree that 2002 should be the year given on our page for the album's initial release, stating that it was re-released in 2008.
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^ Well, I'm still not convinced.
The Bandcamp page says: Originally recorded in 2002.
Discogs says: released in 2008.
And the label release number is: CM08003. Confused

Maybe you're right, but how can we be sure?
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ Are you sure about this? Maybe it's originally recorded in 2002, but released in 2008?

On Antony's Bandcamp and Spotify the release date is 2002.

Bandcamp - https://antonykalugin.bandcamp.com/album/the-water
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/album/0FMeuvE7aSKsUAscCb6TTE?si=5m3qj7FnSwSPhTloxHTC6w
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^ Are you sure about this? Maybe it's originally recorded in 2002, but released in 2008?
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The release date for "The Water" by Antony Kalugin should be updated to 2002.

Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=70694
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^ Thanks, both albums are updated now.
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Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

E&O Team: Thanks for your post. This is strange, the "bonus disc" mention is only on the 2CD edition. The same tracks are on the 2LP edition, with no mention of bonus disc. So I added a note.


That's a good solution, I checked Discogs after and saw the the 2LP indeed does not mention it, and the digital version on Tidal says vol 1 and vol 2.

The single CD edition is still missing, though. I see it hasn't yet been added to Discogs but I held it in my hand at the record store when picking up my double CD edition, so I swear it exists Tongue

Now I realise that the same asterisk should be added to The Quest: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=73036 

Again the 2CD version explicitly marks the second disc as a "bonus disc" but the LP version and digital don't do that.

As opposed to Mirror to the Sky there's no single CD version of The Quest out there.
It's on PA!
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^ ok, fixed
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=80669

1. Protect Us from the Truth (8:21)
2. Glass (5:34)
3. The Potter's Field (5:33)
4. Jellyfish Bowl (8:16)
5. The Heresiarch (3:31)
6. The Inner Circle (3:16)
7. A Chair at the Backdoor (12:24)

Total Time 46:55

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- Ilaria Vrenna / piano (1,2,6)
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- Gregory Ezechieli / saxophone (1,7)
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