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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2023 at 12:49
They cant be prog: King Charles III listen to them!
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Nope.  Just because it's long, does not make it a prog rock song.

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Dire Straits are about as much of a prog band as Steely Dan or The Police. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2023 at 17:39
Adding some Heavy Fuel to the debate, I can tell you Money for Nothing that Dire Straits are So Far Away from prog, but between You and Your Friend, Why Worry anyway, as they'll always be a Solid Rock band to me. Smile

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Dire Straits are about as much of a prog band as Steely Dan or The Police. 

LOL

I would also throw in Queen just to reignite an old argument.Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2023 at 03:18
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

They cant be prog: King Charles III listen to them!

He also attended a Status Quo gig with Di, back in '82... and before anyone asks, Quo ain't prog either; as they so self-deprecatingly admitted, they were still searching for the fourth chord.. 
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

They cant be prog: King Charles III listen to them!
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Not prog Imo....however I like Telegraph Road a lot
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Telegraph Road was the song that led me to love longer songs, so for me, they're not prog, but a stepping stone that led me to progressive rock
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Wikipedia regards "Love over Gold" as progressive rock, art rock, jazz rock.
 
Not long after "Love over Gold" was released, my older brother offered me a ticket to a Dire Straits concert, describing their music as "similar to Pink Floyd" which, because neither of us were aware of the term "progressive rock" at that time, was his way of saying he thought their music was progressive rock. He introduced me to Yes and Nektar, so he was aware of what progressive rock was.
 
It should be said that this was during the '80s when progressive rock had more-or-less disappeared from the airwaves in Australia, so every hint of progressive rock counted.
 



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Love Over Gold has some hints of prog here and there, within Telegraph Road. A great song and also great lyrics. The rest of their catalogue is not progressive. The opposite. imo.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Dire Straits are about as much of a prog band as Steely Dan or The Police. 

LOL

I would also throw in Queen just to reignite an old argument.Wink


But Queen 1973-1975 are prog lol


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Dire Straits? Ha! No, not even remotely. Nope.
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Not even remotely, although their masterpiece Love over Gold has some slightly progish hints.
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Wikipedia regards "Love over Gold" as progressive rock, art rock, jazz rock.
 
Not long after "Love over Gold" was released, my older brother offered me a ticket to a Dire Straits concert, describing their music as "similar to Pink Floyd" which, because neither of us were aware of the term "progressive rock" at that time, was his way of saying he thought their music was progressive rock. He introduced me to Yes and Nektar, so he was aware of what progressive rock was.
 
It should be said that this was during the '80s when progressive rock had more-or-less disappeared from the airwaves in Australia, so every hint of progressive rock counted.

I also spent the 70's & 80's being unaware my music of choice was called "progressive rock". I only learned that in the early 90's. 
Most of us in the area (Toronto) called that genre "Art Rock"



Real progressive rock from the big 70's band during the 80's were: 
King Crimson/Discipline era
Emerson Lake & Powell
Brother Were You Bound 

Crest of Knave ((see Budapest)



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dire straits is pure rockBig smile
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Crest of Knave ((see Budapest)


Budapest, which is basically Jethro Full trying to sound like Dire Straits plus flute
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jacob Schoolcraft Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2023 at 16:36
There are many Rock bands in the 60s, 70s, and 80s that played regular Rock, but had a tendency to play in a Progressive style ..either by doing it for the whole of 4 or 5 minutes in one of their songs...or...recorded an instrumental piece .You can literally plough through a large volume of Rock albums which extend over 30 years and find that.

Of course they were never thought to be Progressive Rock by their audience or the industry, but because they were professional musicians they did in fact play something which sounded like Progressive Rock for a whole of 2 or 4 minutes. The reason being that they had a spark of creative freedom and could get away with it sparingly because they sold consistently and made the record companies happy. It's a fact..however they were never labeled as progressive in any sense. It usually wasn't revealed through the publications industry that they possessed that quality. I'm assuming it wouldn't have been good for business since they were being promoted as something else..but obviously some fans took notice of it.

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