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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Good news! I just discovered a far more extensive list of Prog Archives Top 20 Albums for 1967 (with a little help from Google), which still doesn't include The Beatles, but it does include The Nice and Miles Davis (twice!). Big smile

As far as I'm concerned, top 10s would be very fine. Smile

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^ Even it's interesting to see this one:

19. 1967: Czeslaw Niemen - Dziwny Jest Ten Swiat
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Good news! I just discovered a far more extensive list of Prog Archives Top 20 Albums for 1967 (with a little help from Google), which still doesn't include The Beatles, but it does include The Nice and Miles Davis (twice!). Big smile

As far as I'm concerned, top 10s would be very fine. Smile

But if I'd only listed a Top 10, you would have missed out on Czeslaw Niemen at #19. Wink
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I just discovered a far more extensive list of Prog Archives Top 20 Albums for 1967 (with a little help from Google), ...

I'm curious, Paul, how did you do that?
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I just discovered a far more extensive list of Prog Archives Top 20 Albums for 1967 (with a little help from Google), ...

I'm curious, Paul, how did you do that?
I typed into Google: "Prog Archives 1967 Top Albums" - and this is the Top 20 list they came up with...

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^ All right, you know some tricks. Thumbs Up








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1968    The year when a tripped-out Syd Barrett was replaced by David Gilmour in Pink Floyd and also the year when the Canterbury Scene came to mean more than just an invite to one of the Archbishop of Canterbury's cheese and wine parties. Leading band Caravan (at #10) left all of the other Canterbury Scene bands trailing behind in their wake, and coincidentally, Caravan's eponymous debut album was the first album to mention "Progressive Rock" in the sleeve notes. Smile


01. 3 stars 1968: The Mothers of Invention - We're Only in it for the Money - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZIwX2v46fKfMEDrJoQ3wbSu8Ila4Ciks
02. 4 stars 1968: Procol Harum - Shine On Brightly - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ABC37472DEED12F
03. 3 stars 1968: Soft Machine - The Soft Machine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs441a1O658
04. 4 stars 1968: Family - Music in a Doll's House - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1F6E4AF96C3F9481
05. 5 stars 1968: The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5UdP-SFNgY
06. 3 stars 1968: Miles Davis - Miles in the Sky - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6eZHnIA__A
07. 3 stars 1968: Os Mutantes - Os Mutantes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5awe-gTz1p0
08. 3 stars 1968: Miles Davis - Filles de Kilimanjaro - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4qdsdtFUMs
09. 3 stars 1968: Herbie Hancock - Speak Like a Child - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q-lpXN7_DM
11. 4 stars 1968: Pink Floyd - A Saucerful of Secrets - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmmuHnXLJiw
13. 4 stars 1968: Pentangle - The Pentangle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlETEjtFDu0
15. 4 stars 1968: Pearls Before Swine - Balaklava - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWZSo01v_uQ
16. 5 stars 1968: Ultimate Spinach - Behold and See - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn9Nx-Y61yg
17. 3 stars 1968: Mort Garson - The Wizard of Iz - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAY9hkqIR1I
19. 3 stars 1968: International Harvester - Sov Gott Rose-Marie - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBj2BdwR5w
20. 3 stars 1968: The Incredible String Band - Wee Tam and the Big Huge - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ns6VP3D4JtA1wRmmyptz2KKfh_lIxGkV4
21. 4 stars 1968: Aphrodite's Child - End of the World - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFj4RHPPyfw
22. 4 stars 1968: Jacks - Vacant World - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3nbjzpWYlI
23. 4 stars 1968: Blood, Sweat & Tears - Child is Father to the Man - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAlSciahOkI
24. 4 stars 1968: The Ceyleib People - Tanyet - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpOoj1eAIJI
25. 4 stars 1968: Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera - Velvet Opera - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDD7B647064FBFC95
27. 5 stars 1968: Mandrake Memorial - The Mandrake Memorial - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjZnpDlBzipIzU89vnrwG6YvUKMIfh4S5
28. 4 stars 1968: Don Ellis & His Orchestra - Autumn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp6PWDUbaZA
30. 3 stars 1968: Jean-Luc Ponty - More Than Meets the Ear - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWy1VqVN8GlqcO4C_boKbg9xyWus_sqPu
31. 4 stars 1968: Traffic - Traffic - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpMVnqHEZ7Q
33. 4 stars 1968: Jeff Beck - Truth - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO_KcgJoQI0
34. 3 stars 1968: Tom Ze - Grande Liquidacao - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPcMlrCKFg
35. 3 stars 1968: Grupa 220 - Nasi Dani - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh_XV2sCPeA
36. 3 stars 1968: The Jan Hammer Trio - Maliny Maliny - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFrdOPypTSwUe53KMrFCXwvsUBPazqVxU
37. 4 stars 1968: Traffic Sound - A Bailar a-Go-Go - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAUGVT7zbRA
38. 4 stars 1968: The Gentle Soul - Gentle Soul - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTXZ1TGrpLs
39. 3 stars 1968: Captain Beefheart - Strictly Personal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGfvhdCFI-U


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^ Even it's interesting to see this one:

19. 1967: Czeslaw Niemen - Dziwny Jest Ten Swiat
It may also be interesting to know that the title says, Strange Is This World 

while I'd at least say, it gets more and more made by plastic. Star

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Prog related artists are not considered for those lists. 

Thanks Cristi. That explains why The Beatles aren't included in the 1968 list either. Thumbs Up


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1968
A top fifteen from me would look something like:

Miles Davis - Filles de Kilimanjaro
Miles Davis - Miles in the Sky
Pink Floyd - A Saucerful of Secrets
Family - Music in a Doll's House
Pentangle - Sweet Child
The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord
Herbie Hancock - Speak Like a Child
Terje Rypdal - Bleak House
The Incredible String Band - Wee Tam and the Big Huge
The Mothers of Invention - We're Only in it for the Money
Ultimate Spinach - Behold and See
Pentangle - The Pentangle
Captain Beefheart - Strictly Personal
Os Mutantes - Os Mutantes
Caravan - Caravan


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^ If The Incredible String Band - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter, by far their most popular (and best)  album everywhere but here was among the 40 to choose from, it would been in my top five.
-with that out of the way I've got ten favorites from
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1967


Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Captain Beefheart - Safe as Milk
Miles Davis Quintet - Nefertiti (I have it as a 1968-album though)
The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
The Mothers of Invention - Absolutely Free
Miles Davis Quintet - Sorcerer
The Incredible String Band - The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
The Zodiac - Cosmic Sounds
Fifty Foot Hose - Cauldron
Tim Buckley - Goodbye and Hello
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It's good to see the psych classics Mandrake Memorial (at #27) and Ultimate Spinach (at #16) in the Top 40 chart for 1968. Thumbs Up

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

... Caravan's eponymous debut album was the first album to mention "Progressive Rock" in the sleeve notes. Smile

As stated/documented by, as far as I remember, Enigmatic in another thread, this sleeve note first appeared in the 1972 reissue. Smile




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My '68 faves from the list are:

02. Procol Harum - Shine On Brightly
03. Soft Machine - The Soft Machine 
11. Pink Floyd - A Saucerful of Secrets




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Miles Davis Quintet - Nefertiti (I have it as a 1968-album though)
Only PA lists it as a 1967 album. Weird - and wrong

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Miles Davis Quintet - Nefertiti (I have it as a 1968-album though)
Only PA lists it as a 1967 album. Weird - and wrong


report the mistake and the E & O team will fix the issue. 
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


...

The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed

Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn


Hi,

At the time, a lot of the music was depending on radio play, specially in America when the AM radio was still favored, which was to begin falling apart the following year, when a lot of the folks on it, started the dumping ground on the new materials, including a jackass in Madison that called Jimi Hendrix a stoned kid that didn't know music, and at least twice that I caught, he started the single and ripped the needle through the rest of the song! I would have fired that idiot on the spot for being in the wrong business and not supporting the music!

PF, on that first album, was kinda known in England, to a small degree, along with other bands in their "college circuit" of bands, that at the time also featured The Soft Machine and others ... but beyond that I think it was kinda ... so what ... more weird, far out, quasi psychedelic music ... (PF's early stuff is NOT psychedelic at all, despite it being around during the time) ... that was getting some attention, but in America it was not going to get played much on the AM radio. It was later on the FM radio band that PF got better known in America, because the weird/eccentric nature of the music was an attractive new choice, and a much better product than some cheap stuff or "I had too much to dream last night", which, btw, is not even a drug song!

It is, neat, and far out, that some 50 plus years later, we can sit back and say ... that was a far out album, even if Roger still speaks of them as crap and not worth discussing! Dave has an inch of respect, but does not think of it as valuable when it comes to composition, since it does not feature one of his solos Tongue!

But what it told us all was that in the next few years, the long cut and the "tripping" was what a lot of music was all about, which meant that a lot of the Syd stuff was no longer an interest for the new radio folks with FM radio in America. England different in this aspect, and even Dave Cousins book on it (he worked in the evolution of FM radio in England) is elusive and sometimes not clear about all the music, and what it needed ... and maybe all he really wanted was to get a new keyboard, or guitar so his band could continue, and his wife wouldn't throw the bum out the door!
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

You should be a collaborator, Paul.  You post more material on forums...than anybody on PA. I've found many albums you've recommended resplendent.  That said, you put a dent in my spending money account.   Enjoying my Mostly Autumn binge. Wink

I'm glad you're enjoying Mostly Autumn, especially bearing in mind they're mostly ignored by radio stations and  anyone outside of the progosphere. I'll have various shades of Welsh band Magenta coming up for you soon, including Cyan, Chimpan A, Kiama, Trippa, The Fyreworks, together with solo albums by Christina Booth, Chris Fry & Rob Reed - so that's a few more albums to put a dent in your bank account. Embarrassed
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

(PF's early stuff is NOT psychedelic at all, despite it being around during the time) 

Piper at the Gates of Dawn, fueled by Syd Barrett's escalating consumption of LSD (exacerbating his schizophrenia), is psychedelic music by intention, by acclaim and by historical perspective, as was Floyd's multimedia stage shows at the time.

You are utterly wrong.  


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Two evergreen prog classics from 1967 that you can never hear too many times.....

01. 5 stars 1967: The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kH3L9CRYvGAW2D1bj_2vx0JYvSpe74Wvw

Nights in White Satin (an eternal classic which has entered the British Top 20 singles chart three times in 1967, 1972 & 1979) Heart



A Whiter Shade of Pale (reportedly, Gary Brooker turned a whiter shade of pale when he discovered that Matthew Fisher was claiming writing royalties for the song 38 years later, which ended in a court case, and which Gary Brooker described as a darker shade of black for British justice). Ouch



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