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I’m really digging Weather Report with the “Heavy Weather” album. I think it is the best Jazz fusion album I’ve ever heard.
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Let me suggest some of my favorite American bands! 

  • Spyro Gyra
  • Kick the Cat (from Chicago!) 
  • Pat Metheny Group
  • Dixie Dregs (often overlooked) 
  • Return to Forever and their offspring! 
  • Fareed Haque Group and his many projects i.e. Garaj Mahal 
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

I’m really digging Weather Report with the “Heavy Weather” album. I think it is the best Jazz fusion album I’ve ever heard.

But is it Jazz-Rock? - Even it doesn't have to matter that much. Smile




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I've been very fond of some Jazz-Rock albums from about the very beginning of my digging music in the first half of the '70s,
and most notably Birds of Fire, RtF's Where Have I Known...and Osibisa. But it was not until the '00s that I became interested
in Jazz-Rock from many different countries around the world which I in return have had very much pleasure of ever since. Tongue






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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2023 at 09:43
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I've been very fond of some Jazz-Rock albums from about the very beginning of my digging music in the first half of the '70s,
and most notably Birds of Fire and RtF's Where Have I Known....But it was not until the '00s that I became interested
in Jazz-Rock from many different countries around the world which I in return have had very much pleasure of ever since. Tongue

Excellent!  Sounds as if we have walked the same path!   Of course, RtF led to my lifelong appreciation & love for the music by Al Dimeola, Stanley Clarke etc. 

Here's a taste of Chicagoland's own Fareed Haque playing some M. Orchestra with the California Guitar Trio! Fareed turns on the burners about 2:40!  




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Agora (Italy)
Brian Auger (UK)
Eela Craig (Austria)
Emergency (Multi-National)
Out of Focus (Germany)
Santana (Multi-National)
Secret Oyster (Denmark)
Shadowfax (USA)
Solution (The Netherlands)
Gabor Szabo (Hungary)
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great, Paul
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


<span style="white-space:pre">     </span>I've been very fond of some Jazz-Rock albums from about the very beginning of my digging music in the first half of the '70s,
<span style="white-space:pre">     </span>and most notably Birds of Fire, RtF's Where Have I Known...and Osibisa. But it was not until the '00s that I became interested
<span style="white-space:pre">     </span>in Jazz-Rock from many different countries around the world which I in return have had very much pleasure of ever since. Tongue








Yeah David. You may have a point. I think it may just be straight Jazz fusion. Very very accessible Jazz fusion.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Agora (Italy)
Brian Auger (UK)
Eela Craig (Austria)
Emergency (Multi-National)
Out of Focus (Germany)
Santana (Multi-National)
Secret Oyster (Denmark)
Shadowfax (USA)
Solution (The Netherlands)
Gabor Szabo (Hungary)

Thanks for adding Shadowfax, Paul!  
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There is only really one and that is Weather Report. Heavy Weather is a masterpiece of an album, same with Mysterious Traveller and Black Market. It is honestly a shame how underrated they are on the archives, they are on the same pedestal as bands like Santana and Mahavishnu Orchestra for me. 
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Originally posted by Dapper~Blueberries Dapper~Blueberries wrote:

There is only really one and that is Weather Report. Heavy Weather is a masterpiece of an album, same with Mysterious Traveller and Black Market. It is honestly a shame how underrated they are on the archives, they are on the same pedestal as bands like Santana and Mahavishnu Orchestra for me. 


Couldn’t agree with you more. Well said, sir.
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Quote Thumbs Up  and preferably only Jazz-Rock, I've planned another thread for Jazz Fusion.
What???? Jazz Rock and Jazz Fusion are not the same thing? I'm confused.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote Thumbs Up  and preferably only Jazz-Rock, I've planned another thread for Jazz Fusion.
What???? Jazz Rock and Jazz Fusion are not the same thing? I'm confused.

you're not the only one. LOL
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote Thumbs Up  and preferably only Jazz-Rock, I've planned another thread for Jazz Fusion.
What???? Jazz Rock and Jazz Fusion are not the same thing? I'm confused.

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Overall, how do you all look at Jazz Rock? Doo you all see it as a strict subcategory of Jazz Fusion. Or is there Jazz Rock, that isn't Jazz Fusion. Like, where do you place a band like Steely Dan?

Some very good questions. Thumbs Up

I see Jazz-Rock and Jazz Fusion as two different categories, Jazz-Rock being more Rock-influenced while Jazz Fusion mostly Jazz-influenced, and also to higher degree having influences from other genres than Rock.

Then I distinguish between Progressive Jazz-Rock and non-Progressive Jazz-Rock, the latter one being less complex/experimental, like Steely Dan.

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Quite a thin line between jazz rock and fusion. This post may confuse you more. 😅

Jazz rock:


Jazz fusion:
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Let me suggest some of my favorite American bands! 

  • Spyro Gyra
  • Kick the Cat (from Chicago!) 
  • Pat Metheny Group
  • Dixie Dregs (often overlooked) 
  • Return to Forever and their offspring! 
  • Fareed Haque Group and his many projects i.e. Garaj Mahal 

I forgot a couple of artists from the States:

  • Shawn Lane - amazing talent, a life cut short by severe health problems! 
  • Mahavishnu Orchestra - I tended to think of this band as British, but I'm told it is properly US!
  • Jeff Berlin - another amazing talent, who played with many of the greats! 
  • Happy the Man 
  • Jaco - sad ending to a great talent! 
I tend to think of blazing guitar-driven fusion as Jazz Rock, but there may be others that qualify, such as Paul Winter Consort, Oregon (the band) etc.  
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I have hundreds of Jazz-Rock favourites, but I can't think of any Jazz Fusion I really like, not unless you count Jan Hammer as Jazz Fusion. Wink


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I have hundreds of Jazz-Rock favourites, but I can't think of any Jazz Fusion I really like, not unless you count Jan Hammer as Jazz Fusion. Wink

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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Let me suggest some of my favorite American bands! 

  • Spyro Gyra
  • Kick the Cat (from Chicago!) 
  • Pat Metheny Group
  • Dixie Dregs (often overlooked) 
  • Return to Forever and their offspring! 
  • Fareed Haque Group and his many projects i.e. Garaj Mahal 

Here's some blazing guitar work by Fareed Haque with his Garaj Mahal project!


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