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Sorry for not answering. Lately, the page is always down for me. This is the first time I'm able to enter in a few days. 

I have discovered this recently, I think that it is very good:



Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

Yet another topic on what is or what isn’t. Symphonic, Progressive genres. Right in the context of the original question and any other examples you’ll never get a true definition of who is or who isn’t considered to belong within a genre. As each person has their own definition of who or who isn’t a factor in the genre. So just stop trying and allow yourself to decide who is or isn’t in. Your own choices.

The OP was not trying to define or redefine what symphonic metal is, he just wanted to hear some music like the bands he mentioned in his initial post, that's all. 

Yes, the thread title is pretty terrible, but the purpose of the thread is more than fine. Smile

Sorry, English is not my first language and sometimes I lack subtlety. What title do you recommend? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2022 at 23:54
See if you can find the song "Ulice_Rozpaczy" by Polish band Panzerfaust.  It might be in here.


(My only concern is that they may be a neo-Nazi band!  I don't speak Polish).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2022 at 02:02
Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

Yet another topic on what is or what isn’t. Symphonic, Progressive genres. Right in the context of the original question and any other examples you’ll never get a true definition of who is or who isn’t considered to belong within a genre. As each person has their own definition of who or who isn’t a factor in the genre. So just stop trying and allow yourself to decide who is or isn’t in. Your own choices.

The OP was not trying to define or redefine what symphonic metal is, he just wanted to hear some music like the bands he mentioned in his initial post, that's all. 

Yes, the thread title is pretty terrible, but the purpose of the thread is more than fine. Smile
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Yet another topic on what is or what isn’t. Symphonic, Progressive genres. Right in the context of the original question and any other examples you’ll never get a true definition of who is or who isn’t considered to belong within a genre. As each person has their own definition of who or who isn’t a factor in the genre. So just stop trying and allow yourself to decide who is or isn’t in. Your own choices.
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It must be this, bal sagoth:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2Su7AgQZzl0&feature=share

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This German atmospheric black metal band has symphonic elements. Smile
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I have a Rhapsody of Fire album that is pretty symphonic sounding. What about Angra?
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Okay I found one more that I think you'll love:


You'll find lots of good stuff here.


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Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Thanks, bardberic, I'm slowly listening to your recommendations. I wasn't expecting to hear microtonalism and Sephardic influences in symphonic metal. I can say that I'm pleasantly surprised. One day I must open a thread about microtonalist prog. 


Well it's more Mizrachi than Sephardic, but yes.

In any case let's also try Diablo Swing Orchestra. It's a bit of a different approach but still "truly symphonic:"

https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe257tS-1d4&list=PLrt9SDnUYUmKE7-BXQGnh9zNDObWP4aNq&index=1

If you liked that there's that one f**king Accented Sevenfold song lol:
A Little Piece of Heaven

This is not for what you're looking (which is why I'm not embedding it), but this performance by Unlucky Morpheus is worth checking out:
Quadratum

I also don't know how I managed to miss X Japan's Art of Life; this is the holy grail of for what you're looking!:


I'm stopping it here because Art of Life is the peak of "truly symphonic metal." It does not get better than that lmao



(I'll probably add more later lol)

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Thanks, bardberic, I'm slowly listening to your recommendations. I wasn't expecting to hear microtonalism and Sephardic influences in symphonic metal. I can say that I'm pleasantly surprised. One day I must open a thread about microtonalist prog. 
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Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm guessing you know and don't consider symphonic enough Epica, Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, Tristania, Therion, Rhapsody of Fire? I would think in most of their albums they have a bit more than just a few strings in the background... and some of their albums do have interconnected songs... at least thematically if not musically.

Maybe I choose unwisely my words. All those bands are really good... They are just not the kind of greater than life, ambitious music that I seek. The albums I mentioned evoque some response that I only get from Mozart, Schubert, Brahms, Dvorak, Wagner... I don't know how to explain it. 


What you want is symphonic death metal, industrial death metal (the two make up atmospheric death metal), and atmospheric sludge metal.

Try Septicflesh, the Monolith Deathcult, and Neurosis, respectively.

In the post above, ERSEDU and Fleshgod Apocalypse are the best recs.


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How about Aeternam? I think this is just what you're looking for:

MaYan, Mark Jansen from Epica's side project takes it up a level from Epica in pretension:

How could I forget Amaseffer? This is about as lush and pompous as it gets! My number one recommendation here:

This single by ERSEDU, an up and coming band from Ukraine is a high recommendation. They were supposed to "re"-debut this year, but due to some, ahem, geopolitical issues, that doesn't seem plausible now, unfortunately:
The rest of the EP is worth checking out, but it's not as grandiose as this one:

There's Winterhorde, too. One of my absolute favorite albums ever:

Fleshgod Apocalypse?:

Too bad it's f**king brickwalled lol

That should do it for now :)


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Since you brought up "Wilderun," here's Orphaned Land. They are so similar I cannot not recommend them to you.
Their album The Never Ending Way of ORwarriOR is very similar to Epigone in my opinion, but UPaDM above is their "pompous" and "lush" album lol

All is One is even more symphonic than UPaDM, but I don't like it as much.



And while the symphonic elements are quite developed yet, ORwarriOR, as stated above is basically as pompous as and progressive as it gets, similar to Epigone, hence the comparison:


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I just discovered this:



Which is completely in line with what I'm searching for. 


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Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm guessing you know and don't consider symphonic enough Epica, Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, Tristania, Therion, Rhapsody of Fire? I would think in most of their albums they have a bit more than just a few strings in the background... and some of their albums do have interconnected songs... at least thematically if not musically.


Maybe I choose unwisely my words. All those bands are really good... They are just not the kind of greater than life, ambitious music that I seek. The albums I mentioned evoque some response that I only get from Mozart, Schubert, Brahms, Dvorak, Wagner... I don't know how to explain it. 


I don't know so many of the bands you mentioned. I do know Wilderun, though not their last album. I know Sleep at the Edge of the Earth, and I mostly find the epic really something special (despite the fact I'm not really fond of growling)... I think I gave the next album a listen and didn't do much for me. I also do Know Empath... and I do love some Devin Townsend, but I didn't find that albus as greater than life... from the little I have heard of him, I do love Terria much more, but I believe there must be other albums from around that period (00's I guess) that should be just as great. From the ones I mentioned, from Within Temptation I find Mother Earth to be among my favourite albums overall and think is something really special. From Nightwish it's Imaginaerum. And from Therion Secret of the Runes. Otherwise, it's mostly the collection of songs throughout their discographies more than some particular albums.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm guessing you know and don't consider symphonic enough Epica, Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, Tristania, Therion, Rhapsody of Fire? I would think in most of their albums they have a bit more than just a few strings in the background... and some of their albums do have interconnected songs... at least thematically if not musically.

Maybe I choose unwisely my words. All those bands are really good... They are just not the kind of greater than life, ambitious music that I seek. The albums I mentioned evoque some response that I only get from Mozart, Schubert, Brahms, Dvorak, Wagner... I don't know how to explain it. 
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Symphonic Metal bands on Prog Archives:-

After Forever
Epica
Kamelot
Kingfisher Sky
Nightwish
Rhapsody of Fire
Therion
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