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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Sometimes an image, a photo and even an emoticon speak louder than a hundred words.

That's the problem for me, and no arguments there.
And sometimes an emoticon can be misinterpreted. Wink

OMG, are we back at this? I thought we were done... 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Sometimes an image, a photo and even an emoticon speak louder than a hundred words.

That's the problem for me, and no arguments there.
And sometimes an emoticon can be misinterpreted. Wink

OMG, are we back at this? I thought we were done... 
Are we going off-topic again? Tongue  Maybe it's time I featured another Tangerine Dream album. Smile 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Sometimes an image, a photo and even an emoticon speak louder than a hundred words.

That's the problem for me, and no arguments there.
And sometimes an emoticon can be misinterpreted. Wink

OMG, are we back at this? I thought we were done... 
Are we going off-topic again? Tongue  Maybe it's time I featured another Tangerine Dream album. Smile 

that's the idea. 
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^ How about a tribute thread to The Tangent, then no one will mind if it goes off at a tangent, if you see it from my angle. Tongue

While we're on the subject of tangents, did you know there's a Tangerine Dream tribute artist going by the name of Tangent Dreams? Geek
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

And now, we're talking about our problems, I wished that you stopped being aggressive towards me and trying putting me down.

I'm not being aggressive (how?) or trying to put you down. I don't know how you are reaching this conclusion. 

an example:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

A bit primitive, isn't it, Hugh Manatee?

you not getting his joke is hilarious to be honest. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


While we're on the subject of tangents, did you know there's a Tangerine Dream tribute artist going by the name of Tangent Dreams? Geek

"Tangent Dreams aka James Miller is a musician (keyboards, guitars, vocals and saxophones) and an electronic music composer since 1994. Born in London in 1984 he is currently making music while travelling the world." (Discogs)
Apparently, he makes his own music, but "expanding the TD universe".

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Sometimes an image, a photo and even an emoticon speak louder than a hundred words.
That's the problem for me, and no arguments there.

OMG, are we back at this? I thought we were done... 

Anyway, back to other issue, I'd say there's a positive change, so you're not so prissy anymore, but it could still be better - and I know, other people has been bothered by it as well.

Sorry, Paul, but I had to finish it.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

And now, we're talking about our problems, I wished that you stopped being aggressive towards me and trying putting me down.

I'm not being aggressive (how?) or trying to put you down. I don't know how you are reaching this conclusion. 

an example:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

A bit primitive, isn't it, Hugh Manatee?

you not getting his joke is hilarious to be honest. 

It is clear you are holding a grudge for a long time and can't let go of a simple disagreement. 
Putting someone down implies malicious intent which I do not have any. 

Please let it go, you keep picking on me and start being off topic, how many times do you need to be told to stick to the topic of the thread. 
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Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


While we're on the subject of tangents, did you know there's a Tangerine Dream tribute artist going by the name of Tangent Dreams? Geek

"Tangent Dreams aka James Miller is a musician (keyboards, guitars, vocals and saxophones) and an electronic music composer since 1994. Born in London in 1984 he is currently making music while travelling the world." (Discogs)
Apparently, he makes his own music, but "expanding the TD universe".
 
I'll be sure to feature Tangent Dreams' albums here when I've finished listing all of Tangerine Dream's albums, so it should be some time next year then. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

My Electronic Music collection on CD

Nice! A few comments:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Richard Burmer - On the Third Extreme
Richard Burmer - Mosaic
Richard Burmer - Invention

I discovered Richard via Fortuna Records (he later moved to American Gramaphone), since Steve Roach was his labelmate at the time. Burmer's music is utterly unique. I dubbed it "storybook EM" because he defied categorization. Sadly, in his final years he may have been homeless. He hadn't released an album for a long time.

Mosaic is his first album; his second is Bhakti Point, and it's amazing.

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Mark Dwane - The Atlantis Factor

His best one is probably Paradigm Shift. (Mark has released his albums only on CDr since 2008.)

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Jan Hammer - Escape from Television

Snapshots 1.2 features more soundtrack work!

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Kitaro - Dream

His early albums Astral Voyage, Oasis, Ki and In Person are spectacular.

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Patrick O'Hearn - Eldorado
Patrick O'Hearn - Metaphor

POH's first two, Ancient Dreams and Between Two Worlds, are classics!

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

John Serrie - Midsummer Century

Going for the three! His debut And the Stars Go with You is outstanding. So are both Planetary Chronicles volumes (released before/after Midsummer Century).

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Mark Shreeve - Crash Head
Mark Shreeve - Assassin
Mark Shreeve - Legion

Shocked You need Nocturne!

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yanni - Dare to Dream
Yanni - Tribute
Yanni - Live at the Acropolis

Shocked You need the reissue of his first album Optimystique. You'll scarcely believe it's the same guy!
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^ Thanks for the recommendations. Thumbs Up I doubt if I'll be expanding my Electronic Music collection though, as the shop where I used to buy my EM CD's from (Midas Records in Derby) closed down in the late 1990's. One album I will be looking out for though is Tangerine Dream's outstanding Legend soundtrack, which is easily my favourite TD album overall. Hug  
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Thanks for the recommendations. Thumbs Up I doubt if I'll be expanding my Electronic Music collection though, as the shop where I used to buy my EM CD's from (Midas Records in Derby) closed down in the late 1990's. One album I will be looking out for though is Tangerine Dream's outstanding Legend soundtrack, which is easily my favourite TD album overall. Hug  

The nearest store that stocks any EM at all is roughly a two-hour drive for me, so I buy online. Wink
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Thanks for the recommendations. Thumbs Up I doubt if I'll be expanding my Electronic Music collection though, as the shop where I used to buy my EM CD's from (Midas Records in Derby) closed down in the late 1990's. One album I will be looking out for though is Tangerine Dream's outstanding Legend soundtrack, which is easily my favourite TD album overall. Hug  

The nearest store that stocks any EM at all is roughly a two-hour drive for me, so I buy online. Wink
I have a feeling my Tangerine Dream Top 10 is going to look very different by the time I've finished listening to all of their albums, whenever that may be. Smile

My original TD Top 10                   My TD Top 10 now

1. Stratosfear                               1. Legend (soundtrack)
2. Force Majeure                           2. Stratosfear
3. Encore                                     3. Encore
4. Logos                                      4. Logos
5. White Eagle                              5. Poland
6. Tangram                                  6. Force Majeure
7. Ricochet                                   7. Ricochet
8. Poland                                      8. Tangram
9. Cyclone                                    9. Cyclone
10. Thief (soundtrack)                   10. Thief (soundtrack)


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A round-up of the 28 Tangerine Dream albums featured here so far, marking the end of an era when Johannes Schmoelling left the band after the recording of the outstanding Legend soundtrack, and the beginning of a new era with Austrian musician Paul Haslinger making his first appearance in the TD trio for their next album: Underwater Sunlight. Thumbs Up

4 stars 1975: Ricochet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM1Wc6ha_ic
4 stars 1977: Sorcerer (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvLFe3nsulY
5 stars 1977: Encore (Live 1977) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8is0eYVfxs
4 stars 1981: Quichotte (Pergamon) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aOHeg3XitM
4 stars 1981: Thief (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUSBecv08D8
3 stars 1983: Wavelength (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63IV_ihl7OQ
4 stars 1984: Risky Business (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t19pVyWzEZo
3 stars 1984: Firestarter (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQAf57MGPm4
3 stars 1984: Flashpoint (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bPUS3AMEMQ
5 stars 1984: Poland: The Warsaw Concert - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsApXLYXdb4&t=6s
3 stars 1985: Heartbreakers (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZoGT6nUybk
4 stars 1986: Green Desert (recorded in 1973) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyYbiw4qPIc&t=276s
5 stars 1986: Legend (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jvSHmXsuA
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4 stars 1986: Underwater Sunlight - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ltJyvHBGmdFOcB5oZfaYZ8ao0uu3YDwiM
 
Underwater Sunlight is the 29th Tangerine Dream album overall and their 16th studio album, although I almost lost count whilst following the on-going debate between David & Cristi. Tongue 
Underwater Sunlight is a shimmering beauty and a real humdinger of an album, notable for being the first of many albums to feature Austrian musician Paul Haslinger in the TD trio, so plenty to look forward to in the future I'm sure. Thumbs Up
 
 
Track Listing:-
 
1. Song of the Whale, Part One: From Dawn... (8:25)
2. Song of the Whale, Part Two: ... To Dusk (10:53)
3. Dolphin Dance (5:05)
4. Ride on the Ray (5:30)
5. Scuba Scuba (4:30)
6. Underwater Twilight (5:50)


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4 stars 1986: Underwater Sunlight

I think you left off a star! WinkLOL
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

4 stars 1986: Underwater Sunlight

I think you left off a star! WinkLOL
Not every TD album can be a 5-star masterpiece. Underwater Sunlight is still an excellent album though, so I'll give it four and a half stars. Wink
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

4 stars 1986: Underwater Sunlight

I think you left off a star! WinkLOL
Not every TD album can be a 5-star masterpiece. Underwater Sunlight is still an excellent album though, so I'll give it four and a half stars. Wink

Take that 5th star from Logos (because of Side B) and give it to Underwater Sunlight. LOL

US is a perfect album, IMO. The first side alone is exceptional. Paul's piano flourish and Edgar's rock god guitar solo (hi, Trane!) are two exclamation points at the end of a flawless sentence. Clap
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^ I couldn't possibly rate Underwater Sunlight higher than any of Tangerine Dream's superb Live albums. I'm saving that elusive fifth star for the next album, Tyger, Tyger, burning bright, which is burning very brightly indeed from what I've heard of the album so far, and some of the music includes lyrics too! 

By the way, I've just taken a look at the overall PA rating for Underwater Sunlight, where it's rated as 3.72, so on the presumption that 207 prog reviewers can't be wrong, I was relatively generous in giving the album a full 4-star rating. Big smile


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I couldn't possibly rate Underwater Sunlight higher than any of Tangerine Dream's superb Live albums. I'm saving that elusive fifth star for the next album, Tyger, Tyger, burning bright, which is burning very brightly indeed from what I've heard of the album so far, and some of the music includes lyrics too!

Awright, no more trips to the pub, sir! Big smile

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

By the way, I've just taken a look at the overall PA rating for Underwater Sunlight, where it's rated as 3.72, so on the presumption that 207 prog reviewers can't be wrong, I was relatively generous in giving the album a full 4-star rating. Big smile

Wink I wager most of them are "casual" fans who prefer '70s TD. In EM circles across the decades, especially the old TD list and forum, Underwater Sunlight enjoyed no shortage of well-deserved accolades. It's a perfect album.

I do like Tyger, don't get me wrong, but the album gets some help from the two instrumentals that were initially CD bonus tracks.
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