KINGS X

progaardvark wrote: maxsmusic wrote: It like a f**king zoo in here.  The animals were let loose. I have an ample supply of poop bags.

You're full of sh*t, man.

Archisorcerus wrote: progaardvark wrote: maxsmusic wrote: It like a f**king zoo in here.  The animals were let loose. I have an ample supply of poop bags. You're full of sh*t, man.

nick_h_nz wrote: I later learnt that not only do Kings X reject the Christian rock/metal label, but that they were major influences for some of the bands I loved most in my teens (Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, etc.), and that they were also one of the major influences prog metal scene I was beginning to explore. I do think they are hampered by the Christian reputation, regardless of whether or not they reject the label.

nick_h_nz wrote: verslibre wrote: nick_h_nz wrote: I later learnt that not only do Kings X reject the Christian rock/metal label, but that they were major influences for some of the bands I loved most in my teens (Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, etc.), and that they were also one of the major influences prog metal scene I was beginning to explore. I do think they are hampered by the Christian reputation, regardless of whether or not they reject the label. King's X aren't hampered by it, because there was no "reputation" of the sort to begin with. They were associated with it because of their background, but they've never toured on the Christian rock circuit with the likes of Petra, Skillet or Flyleaf (a band that has enjoyed considerable success in both Christian and mainstream, and whose members are openly Christian). King's X inability to break out is pretty obvious: They missed that window. First, they parted ways with their manager, Sam Taylor. The sound of the next album, Dogman, reflected somewhat of a shift from the sound they cultivated on their first four excellent albums. That can make or break a band. While Atlantic pushed them harder than before (and they got to open for Scorpions and Pearl Jam), Dogman didn't sell as well as Atlantic hoped and didn't give them the same promotional oomph for the subsequent album Ear Candy (which sounds more like the first four). Then the band moved to Metal Blade. Basically, King's X maintains a modest but very devoted following (just like many prog bands, I reckon). Let's not forget Rick Wakeman is Christian and has performed in many churches. They may not have had that reputation for you, but I have already told you that they had that association for many (and I’m not sure what your distinction is between reputation and association, anyway). It may be different depending on geographic locale, or perhaps by age of listener - but certainly everyone I knew at school thought Kings X were a Christian rock/metal band. The only person I knew at school who listened to them, and who tried to get me to listen to them, was Christian and listened almost exclusively to Christian music. Other people I have met on the internet have assumed they were Christian when I’ve brought them up. In fact, almost every time the reason someone has given me a reason for knowing of the band but never listening to them, is because they thought they were a Christian rock/metal band. I’m not saying that is a bad or a good thing. I’m not saying I care about that. I did, when I was a prejudiced teen who knew no better, but that was a looooong time ago. But for many, it is a step too far, and there are plenty of people who stay away from music they perceive (rightly or wrongly) as Christian. Kings X have that reputation (even if not by you), and I am sure that it is a reason they missed the window. It may not be the only reason, but it is definitely a reason.

nick_h_nz wrote: I feel like you’re still misunderstanding me.

rushfan4 wrote: A couple of other side projects that I don't think were mentioned are Poundhound and Pinnick Gales Pridgen.

NP: Jerry Gaskill, Love & Scars

Wow, another thread that went kind of bitchy….🙄

King’s X are a fantastic band. Their first 4 albums are incredible! I was late teens and went to eee them at The Marquee and The Astoria in London every time they came over at that time. They were an astounding live band😎I lost track somewhat (as I did with “decent” music generally!) when I went to uni. In the last few years I’ve had a ticket to see them in Cardiff 3 times, but each time the gig has been cancelled…including the latest (scheduled for September) which was cancelled just a couple of days ago. Ty Tabor is seriously ill, not sure what it is, but I wish him all the best. Gutted they’re not coming, I’d really got back into them again and am looking forward to the new album (it’s been 15 years!!!)

There is no doubt a massive amount of spirituality in a lot of their music, which is no surprise with their backgrounds, but they have always claimed to be questioning faith and religion rather than following it. I’m reading their autobiography right now, which is great and explains a lot!

For anyone who doesn’t know them, get those first 4 albums….and enjoy!!!😎

IncogNeato wrote: Anyway, I hope Ty makes a full recovery from his current illness and King's X is around for years to come!

Been revisiting these guys a lot lately, and their stuff still holds up extremely well. Gretchen Goes to Nebraska would probably be among my favorite albums of that era