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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Neu! is essential Krautrock, and along with Can and Kraftwerk (and Harmonia), one of the most influential bands from Germany when it comes to more modern music I like. :) I see Harmonia is not on your list either. And no Popol Vuh, and no Can, and no Amon Dull II above. I realise it's from a to z then a to z again and so on. I do think this topic would be more readable if you just edited in new playlists to older posts (keep Kraan to one post for instance).


I mentioned in a previous post that following your earlier suggestion of making just one post for each artist, I'm planning to do that as soon as I've finished adding the album links for Kraan, as it'll save me a heck of a lot of time. In addition, three of the Krautrock bands you mentioned:- Amon Duul II; Can & Popol Vuh are all coming up in the A-Z of Krautrock - Part 2. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I'm surprised he didn't put Grobschnitt in his list, but I guess they're classified differently on wikipedia. They even have a German bandname, are they not Krautrock? How can this be? Confused🤦‍♂️

Overall Novalis is a symphonic prog band. It's the dominant sound that matters not the small influences, doesn't it?Confused

Triumvirat are symphonic prog exclusively. Maybe if the OP changes the thread title to 'prog from Germany", I wouldn't object to anything. 

Passport is exclusively a JRF band. There are no Krautrock tinges. 
The only reason Grobschnitt aren't on the first or second A-Z list is simply because Guru Guru & German Oak were suggested for the G-spot beforehand. I'll be sure to put Grobschnitt on the third A-Z list of Krautrock though and give you the credit for adding them too, alongside Neu! Thumbs Up


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Novalis and Triumvirat are symphonic prog. 
Passport are JRF. 

Neu! is the biggest omission here. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=675 - their debut album and Neu! 75 are must listen Krautrock. 


I'm taking a loose approach to Krautrock by including any German bands from the classic 1970's era, rather than sticking to bands that are strictly defined as Krautrock on ProgArchives. I'm looking forward to hearing Novalis, Passport & Triumvirat for the first time, as I've heard nothing but good things about those three Krautrock bands. I would've added Neu to the second A-Z list of Krautrock, but that place ia already taken by Necronomicon, as suggested by BaldJean. I'll be sure to add Neu to the third A-Z list though, if we ever get that far. By the way, I replaced Tangerine Dream with Triumvirat, as I knew it'd take me forever to listen to all of Tangerine Dream's endless multitude of albums. Smile 



Neu! is essential Krautrock, before you listen to a Krautrock obscurity mentioned in this thread, maybe give priority to one of the most important bands in the genre? Confused

Novalis, Triumvirat and Passport do not belong in this thread, especially Triumvirat and Passport. 

As for Tangerine Dream, their pre-Phaedra work qualifies here, but beyond that they are a progressive electronic band. 

As for you loose approach, make sure it does not become inaccurate approach. Like I said, if you called this thread "prog made in Germany", I would not have any objections to what you posted here. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I'm surprised he didn't put Grobschnitt in his list, but I guess they're classified differently on wikipedia. They even have a German band name, are they not Krautrock? How can this be? Confused🤦‍♂️

Overall Novalis is a symphonic prog band. It's the dominant sound that matters not the small influences, doesn't it?Confused

Triumvirat are symphonic prog exclusively. Maybe if the OP changes the thread title to 'prog from Germany", I wouldn't object to anything. 

Passport is exclusively a JRF band. There are no Krautrock tinges. 
The only reason Grobschnitt aren't on the first or second A-Z list is simply because Guru Guru & German Oak were suggested for the G-spot beforehand. I'll be sure to put Grobschnitt on the third A-Z list of Krautrock though and give you the credit for adding them too, alongside Neu! Thumbs Up

I was not suggesting Grobschnitt at all, was just surprised you didn't list them, they are a German band with a German band name. 
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^ I'm not saying the two A-Z lists posted so far are the most important bands in the genre. The Krautrock lists were compiled collectively by the good members of ProgArchives, just as you've now contributed to the third A-Z list by suggesting I add Grobschnitt & Neu! Thumbs Up

A-Z of Krautrock - Part 3

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B - Broselmaschine (added by Philchem8)
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G - Grobschnitt (added by Cristi)
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L - La Dusseldorf (added by Cristi)
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N - Neuschwanstein (added by Philchem8)
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I did not suggest anything! Angry
Stop saying I do. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm taking a loose approach to Krautrock by including any German bands from the classic 1970's era, rather than sticking to bands that are strictly defined as Krautrock on ProgArchives. I'm looking forward to hearing Novalis, Passport & Triumvirat for the first time, as I've heard nothing but good things about those three Krautrock bands. I would've added Neu to the second A-Z list of Krautrock, but that place ia already taken by Necronomicon, as suggested by BaldJean. I'll be sure to add Neu to the third A-Z list though, if we ever get that far. By the way, I replaced Tangerine Dream with Triumvirat, as I knew it'd take me forever to listen to all of Tangerine Dream's endless multitude of albums. Smile 

I like to take loose approaches too. Sometimes I use the word pants to mean tables. So, sometimes you need to set the pants before eating, but make sure you wear your tables before sitting down. In mixed company you could make a social faux pas by dining at tables and use up all your host's paper towels. They would either be impressed or send you on your way to look for a new table. In some households they use their pants as a desk or a catch-all area to open up mail, but what on earth would you do with three- or four-legged tables? You can clearly see how this makes obvious sense to a cloud of polyglots. Don't forget to trim the heat pump beard and offer everyone a 100-pack bag of crazy straws.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I did not suggest anything! Angry
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Come to think of it, I can't add Neu! to the third A-Z list anyway as the "N" slot is already taken by Neuschwanstein, suggested earlier by Philchem8. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I did not suggest anything! Angry
Stop saying I do. 
Come to think of it, I can't add Neu! to the third A-Z list anyway as the "N" slot is already taken by Neuschwanstein, suggested earlier by Philchem8. Thumbs Up

Neuschwanstein is another symphonic prog band.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I did not suggest anything! Angry
Stop saying I do. 
Come to think of it, I can't add Neu! to the third A-Z list anyway as the "N" slot is already taken by Neuschwanstein, suggested earlier by Philchem8. Thumbs Up

Neuschwanstein is another symphonic prog band.

I know, but that doesn't exclude Neuschwanstein from appearing in a Krautrock list, or in a list of castles either. Tongue






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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


Neuschwanstein is another symphonic prog band.

I know, but that doesn't exclude Neuschwanstein from appearing in a Krautrock list, or a list of castles either. Tongue


then why is this thread called Krautrock?
Symphonic prog and Krautrock are two totally different genres. 

In fact Neuschwanstein - Battlement (1979) is Genesis worship done right. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I did not suggest anything! Angry
Stop saying I do. 
Come to think of it, I can't add Neu! to the third A-Z list anyway as the "N" slot is already taken by Neuschwanstein, suggested earlier by Philchem8. Thumbs Up

Neuschwanstein is another symphonic prog band.

I know, but that doesn't exclude Neuschwanstein from appearing in a Krautrock list, or a list of castles either. Tongue





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^ The window cleaner must have a very long ladder. If I lived at Neuschwanstein Castle, I'd want to know how far it is to the nearest supermarket. It looks a bit remote. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ The window cleaner must have a very long ladder. If I lived at Neuschwanstein Castle, I'd want to know how far it is to the nearest supermarket. It looks a bit remote. Smile

They probably have Jetsons flying cars parked in the garage.
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^ Thanks for introducing me to the spacey music of La Dusseldorf. They're a real hum-Dinger of a band and completely Neu! to me. Wink
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They're jammin', jammin', And I hope you like jammin' too. Cool
 


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^ Kraan's 2020 was really good, great albums in late career are rare. 

What band is next? 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ Kraan's 2020 was really good, great albums in late career are rare. 

What band is next? 

That's something we can both agree on. Lucifer's Friend are coming up next in the A-Z list. I've heard they're a devilishly good band. Smile

Krautrock artists featured here so far:-

Agitation Free
Between
The Cosmic Jokers
Dom
Eloy
Edgar Froese
Guru Guru
Hoelderlin
Ibliss
Jane
Kraan

Krautrock artists still to come:-

Lucifer's Friend
Message
Novalis
Out of Focus
Passport
Quaeschning & Schnauss
Rufus Zuphall
Klaus Schulze
Triumvirat
Utopia 
Virgin's Dream
Wallenstein
Xhol Caravan/Xhol
Yatha Sidhra
Zomby Woof
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