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I really enjoy reading this thread, and big thumbs up for the pics some of you guys are posting. I’m making some mental notes regarding my own situation and what I might go for. One thing’s for certain though, I’m planning on adding a bit of colour to whatever I decide to go for..or merely buy something peacocky from the get-go.

Regarding the more serious pitfalls of this hobby, I think I fairly early on learned my lesson via Pink Floyd. Up until that point I was a man (small boy) possessed with the idea of owning everything by my fave artists. I then bought The Final Cut and A Momentary Lapse Of Reason..and quite frankly didn’t like them. The latter was a pale imitation of the music Infell in love with over Delicate Sound Of Thunder whilst the former made me want to listen to The Wall. Once in a while I spin those suckers and always end up feeling the same.
Since then I’ve also opened up to many different styles of music...so space is limited...and perhaps more importantly: why would I want to own music that I never listen to?
That being said...I do know a few guys that own 7 or 8 “different” copies of Dark Side Of The Moon...and the rest of their collections pretty much follow suit....which basically is the secret recipe for entirely filling out a basement with but a mere 1000 albums
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2021 at 09:36
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Honestly, I don't really get the attitude that it has to be something material. I mean, OK, I love a nice LP cover, and the discussion about what sounds better is legit, but other than that, music is for the ears, and I want to pay the artists for their imagination and work, not the company that puts some vinyl or polycarbonate plastic in my place. The world is too full of stuff anyway. 

I agree with this almost word for word...yet keep buying cds. First of all I don’t trust the internet, external harddrives or a NAS. All those things can go wrong and have done so for me in the past. My buddy’s NAS broke down a little while ago and he lost a lot of music he supposedly couldn’t lose because of the bulletproof design .


This is why I have 2 external 1TB hard drives, one to back up the other, ever since one crapped out on me.

That is basically what a NAS is (I believe). Two external hardrives that mirror each other, so if one breaks down you still have all your data intact on the other unit...but like I mentioned, my buddy’s recently broke down, so I’m not entirely sure I trust the design yet.
I am however looking into something similar to hold all the MP3s of my cd library (over half of the collection hasn’t been ripped yet. Not exactly looking forward to the job ).

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That is basically what a NAS is (I believe).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


I am however looking into something similar to hold all the MP3s of my cd library (over half of the collection hasn’t been ripped yet. Not exactly looking forward to the job ).


If you've got the hard drive space, then rip them to the lossless .FLAC format (to give near CD quality sound) instead of the 'lossy' MP3.  You'll be amazed at the difference in sound quality, especially if you've got a decent soundcard and some good speakers.  [I started this project (around 9,000 tracks ago) at the beginning of lockdown, and still haven't quite finished.]

Curiously I find that good old Windows Media Player is one of the simplest tools for ripping CD's, tho it can be done in most other media players/organisers (a bit of a pain to do in VLC I found).


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^I am fairly incompetent when it comes to computers
Merely going by what I remember my buddy telling me.
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Well if you want any technical hints or tips, don't hesitate to ask me.
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^thanks I appreciate it. I do have a few contacts but it’s nice to know that there are folks in the know here as well.
Regarding soundquality though: There’s no difference between FLAC and MP3 320
You can do a blindtest via Foobar2000 and many other similar platforms. Just remember to volume match the files before you do so. Or else the FLAC will be ever so slightly louder and effectively sound better. Louder always sounds better...even when we’re not registering the difference in volume.
I am a complete neanderthal when it comes to IT, but I spent a good amount of time down the Hi-Fi rabbithole until a friend of mine showed me the way out. He works at a professional sound studio and invited me in for some blindtesting sessions..and I am forever grateful. The FLAC vs MP3 320 though was something I did at home

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Which actually brings up a pretty good subject: storage space.
If you like me, and probably many others out there, have compiled quite a vast collection of cds/LPs and want to digitalise the collection..without compromising the sound quality, it’s perfectly alright to use MP3 320 or AAC256 as both are transparent to the human ear. The ‘stuff’ that’s missing is already missing from the sound when you hear it in FLAC. It’s the sounds that are masked by the sounds that are much higher in amplitude. That’s at least a part of it as I recall
Anyhoo..when you have so many cds it invariably ends up at quite the storage space if you’re going for FLAC.

It’s also very deceptful out there. Certain audiophile streaming platforms fx are offering albums that genuinely sound ‘different’/better to what you’ll hear over something like a Spotify 320 connection....but it has nothing to do with the reasons they’re telling you...it’s because the album is from a different master/mix/remaster..and well sometimes they cheat and implement a little DSP/EQ without letting you know.
So many reasons why many folks get audio nervosa..and it simply isn’t worth it. Science is on our side
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Well my current rig has 2x2TB (internal) hard drives dedicated to media storage. To attach another hard drive I'd have to use a USB storage caddy - as I recall there is one lurking somewhere in my odds & sods cupboard.




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I do awfully miss sitting in front of a computer now that I think of it. It’d be so much more comfortable visiting PA over my iPhone that I am using now.
Definitely high on the to-get list and I need something similar to what you’ve got methinks. I am planning on visiting my “IT-buddy” over the summer, who also happens to be an old friend of mine, and I figure he can lead me the way

And now for something completely different:
I am getting a little tired of ‘unusually designed’ cd “cases”. Holy moly! Trying to fit those suckers in with the rest of the collection is like placing a sausage between two carrots. May look great but they are often too tall to fit on the shelf. Some of them are like small labyrinths you need to navigate before you reach a cd wedged hard down inside what looks like the back of a book. Every time you take the cd out you scratch it a little bit. Smartypants

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For a desktop model it's much better to go for a custom build tower unit (which mine is) as anything 'off the shelf' tends to lack features - even an optical drive is considered an optional extra nowadays - personally I couldn't live without one!

Those speakers are by Creative by the way, and pack a real punch!

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I meant a similar storaging solution I’m a looong ways from building my own computer
Plus I really only use a PC for frequenting PA and surfing the net. I don’t game or anything similar.

Thanks for the link to the speakers

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I did not mention in my OP how many digital downloads/albums I have, which is about 3,000 albums mainly in hi-res 24bit as well some DSD albums. These are not cheap relative to the cost of mp3 or iTunes downloads, but I'm more into the sound quality and not wanting to miss out on music that has been truncated from 16bit/24bit to a low fi mp3, I might as well listen to the AM radio.....Confused.

Sitting down to listen to music for ME is an experience I want to enjoy, not to just pass the time. I work from home and music plays 10 hours a day via all my digital albums on shuffle play, it's 100% background music. But come Friday/Saturday night around 7pm, I sit on the sofa in front of the analog rig, pull out 5-6 records and spin them with 100% attention devoted to the music and emotions coming from the speakers.

I don't care about physical space when it comes to my music collection, I doubt I get anywhere near the 1200 albums I had before since many of our beloved artists are dying or retiring. And it's not like in the past where I auto bought albums, more picky today. I probably have enough space to hold 3,000 records in my music room, my wife would have no problem with me amassing such a collection and building a wall of shelves. She totally understand that I love music and its been in my life since before I was 10....but I am one that stresses when I dig thru my bins and go "dang have not heard that in 2yrs!!" As well I am one that will spin DSOtM, Moving Pictures, LZ 1,2,3,4 once a month....brilliant music is brilliant music. Clap

 
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I meant a similar storaging solution I’m a looong ways from building my own computer
Plus I really only use a PC for frequenting PA and surfing the net. I don’t game or anything similar.

Thanks for the link to the speakers


Just to clarify that tower unit was built by my local friendly computer shop - I used do self builds, but can't be arsed nowadays.

The speakers cost about £120 (2 years ago) which is a bargain considering the sound quality that comes out of them.
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^^There are plenty of things where we disagree José, but I still love you buddy
Especially when you say sweet things about the music that we both love so dearly. I’m the same. Off-time is basically my music time..and it never gets old. I never tire of listening to music. On any given day I can locate a shiny disc that will send me off to Goosebumps City

Edith: If I ever find that I am being forced out of my apartment by the sheer size of my collection..it’s probably the right time to find a house

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[which is about 3,000 albums]

Hmmmm, let's see 3000 albums means how many hours times ten plus five subract three and then divide by seven? Tongue
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When I get on a roll without distractions I can rip 10-12 CD's per hour.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

GOOD CHRIST MAN !!!!How do you even know what's in those piles?
Helpful hint...if you can get your hands on empty photocopy paper boxes, cut them down to 5" high. Wrap a piece of packing tape around the perimeter (approx one third of the way down for reinforcement) and place the CD's spine up. Makes seeing what you need easier and they are stackable and easy to move.



I use wooden 6 or 12 wine bottle crates and do not cut anything at all. This allows for placing other boxes above them and not resting on the Jewel cases or mini-lp formats. 
Alternatively, you could wine cardboard wine boxes as opposed to those all-too fragile Xerox boxes. Much sturdier (designed for the weight inside and protecting it from shocks) and ready for moving out

With a little DYI, those wooden boxes can be used as superposed shelves and the opened top of the crate downsized a bit to make an inner horizontal shelf . Well chosen boxes can make a quite decorative set up in your stereo/living room.

Can you show me pictures of this wine box concept?
Also, I don't stack them. I have them sitting on a rack in my office.
Many of them are several years old so they hold up well enough to keep them semi-organized.
I just slide it forward and tip it down to read the spines and extract the CD's.




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I got excited seeing everybodies' devotion to their music collection. Having managed three record stores between 1970 and 1981 in Columbia,S. C. and Houston,Tx.; I have accumulated a good collection, as well. I have two rooms for my music and my collection. I have about 7,000 cds (4,000 prog);4,000 lps; and 800 mix tapes of current  purchases from 1976-2009. Now, I just make mix tapes of  prog- I'm up to part 158 so far.
 My largest single artist collections are KING CRIMSON ( 325 ) ; SOFT MACHINE and splinter bands ( 191 ) and PINK FLOYD ( 247 ).Sort of a completeist on these groups. I started with Mersybeat,then 60's garage pre-psychedelic,San Francisco psychedelic.Detriot early 70's metal bands, glam rock, space rock, and PROG of all avenues.Fortunately my stores carried import albums and provided a broad base education.I love music and I LOVE to play music...currently I'm B. WILDERED (esoteric ,space,psychedelia ) and  A RAT KNEES (acid punk with a loud metal edge ).
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