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I searched and only found some age-old already locked threads on Jimi Hendrix, so here's a new one. If I've overlooked and missed something, feel free to move this post to the right place. 

I'm not one to mourn celebrities, even my favourite musicians or other artists, who pass on what's generally considered too early. Hendrix is different. While I don't mourn his early death (I wasn't even born yet then), I sometimes get frustrated as I feel he really would've had a LOT MORE to give. 

The Ultimate Experience compilation was one of my most listened to CDs when I was 15, around the time it came out. I love the three albums that the Experience made. I don't really care for Band Of Gypsys, though it's been years since I last heard it. Also, for whatever reason, I've never listened to the posthumous stuff much. There must be good things in there, so any suggestions would be welcome. Or is it all just cashing on a legend? 

(More of a side note, as it crossed my mind, but in my teens a friend of mine suggested forming a band with him and another friend of his who I didn't know. We met and talked and naturally discussed what music we were into. I told I liked this band and that and of course Jimi Hendrix, to which the guy replied with a very harsh racist slur. Needless to say, the discussion was over and the band was never formed.) 

While Hendrix is usually most celebrated as a guitarist (and for a reason!), I appreciate him maybe even more as a songwriter, singer and producer. An important part of his genius as a guitar player was the way he treated guitar with studio techniques on Axis: Bold As Love and Electric Ladyland. 
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I agree that Hendrix's guitar playing overshadows his skills as a songwriter and arranger. His lyrics and vocal delivery were excellent too. He was really the total package and was the only musician of that era on par with the Beatles in terms of innovation.
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Re Hiram: I agree with your assessment with Hendrix as a songwriter and producer. I think he was one of the better songwriters in rock, particularly:

Castles Made of Sand
Drifting
Burning the Midnight Oil
1984 (A Merman ...)
Long Hot Summer



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Bleeding Heart - Live at Glastonbury (sort of) Wink
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Jimi was a force of nature. No other description does him justice. I had to laugh at all the deplorably antiquated equipment Hendrix had to work with (check out the mics LOL). One wonders had he lived even into the latter half of the 70s what amazing stuff he could pull off with better studio techniques and digital equipment.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

One wonders had he lived even into the latter half of the 70s what amazing stuff he could pull off with better studio techniques and digital equipment.

Exactly! 
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One of the best descriptions (paraphrased) I ever heard of Hendrix was:

"A hundred years from now, people will still be trying to figure out just what he did, and how he did it."
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

One of the best descriptions (paraphrased) I ever heard of Hendrix was:

"A hundred years from now, people will still be trying to figure out just what he did, and how he did it."



and how he did it on an upside-down guitar.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

One of the best descriptions (paraphrased) I ever heard of Hendrix was:

"A hundred years from now, people will still be trying to figure out just what he did, and how he did it."




and how he did it on an upside-down guitar.


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As Steve said his guitar abilities and presence tended to over shadow the rest ...there are great tracks I love by him but I have never loved any of the studio lps all the way through. Some of his songs on all lp's were a miss for me. I never felt like he was working creatively with the other band members per se to create something that was larger than the sum of the parts...it was always about Hendrix front and center. 
Again...love many of the tracks he did at any rate.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

As Steve said his guitar abilities and presence tended to over shadow the rest ...there are great tracks I love by him but I have never loved any of the studio lps all the way through. Some of his songs on all lp's were a miss for me. I never felt like he was working creatively with the other band members per se to create something that was larger than the sum of the parts...it was always about Hendrix front and center. 
Again...love many of the tracks he did at any rate.
Weak songs on the LPs? Maybe you had the weak acid. Wink
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

As Steve said his guitar abilities and presence tended to over shadow the rest ...there are great tracks I love by him but I have never loved any of the studio lps all the way through. Some of his songs on all lp's were a miss for me. I never felt like he was working creatively with the other band members per se to create something that was larger than the sum of the parts...it was always about Hendrix front and center. 
Again...love many of the tracks he did at any rate.
Weak songs on the LPs? Maybe you had the weak acid. Wink

I think his main problem in the studio was the mix & production, and actually the records got much better for Ladyland and BoG when Jimi started producing himself.   He had an incredible ear despite his rough sound and wrote some astounding music, he just needed a little more time to bring it all together.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

As Steve said his guitar abilities and presence tended to over shadow the rest ...there are great tracks I love by him but I have never loved any of the studio lps all the way through. Some of his songs on all lp's were a miss for me. I never felt like he was working creatively with the other band members per se to create something that was larger than the sum of the parts...it was always about Hendrix front and center. 
Again...love many of the tracks he did at any rate.

Weak songs on the LPs? Maybe you had the weak acid. Wink

I think his main problem in the studio was the mix & production, and actually the records got much better for Ladyland and BoG when Jimi started producing himself.   He had an incredible ear despite his rough sound and wrote some astounding music, he just needed a little more time to bring it all together.


Oddly enough, for as chunky and rough as the sound mixes of the early recordings were, I can't imagine them any other way.
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That Experience debut album is astounding. It's like a greatest hits package.
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And it was waaay better than Sgt. Pepper's or any other iconic album in that era of 1966 - 1967.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

And it was waaay better than Sgt. Pepper's or any other iconic album in that era of 1966 - 1967.

And one of the few releases where the American edition is better than the original British version.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

As Steve said his guitar abilities and presence tended to over shadow the rest ...there are great tracks I love by him but I have never loved any of the studio lps all the way through. Some of his songs on all lp's were a miss for me. I never felt like he was working creatively with the other band members per se to create something that was larger than the sum of the parts...it was always about Hendrix front and center. 
Again...love many of the tracks he did at any rate.
Weak songs on the LPs? Maybe you had the weak acid. Wink

We need to work on your reading skills...never said weak. Some songs simply didn't blow me away...acid or not.
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Funny that...Band Of Gypsys to me is like a ‘high water mark’ of Jimi’s showing how far he got with his music. Miles got into Jimi through this album...especially Machine Gun. It was the music that ended up bringing them together.
Sadly we never got to hear where this friendship would lead...but man I would have loved to see those two gents jamming together or perhaps even releasing a full album.

Other than that? I love Jimi. The space Indian of the west. Debut to South Saturn Delta and everything in between
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

And it was waaay better than Sgt. Pepper's or any other iconic album in that era of 1966 - 1967.

And one of the few releases where the American edition is better than the original British version.


Fortunately the CD remaster fixed that little difficulty.

There are 2 other albums worthy of consideration. Axis: Bold As Love and The Who Sell Out. Great songs and the last as a proper and fun concept album.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

That Experience debut album is astounding. It's like a greatest hits package.
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