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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

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No offense, there's way better pop out there.

like what? 

It will take a long time to list that, but even the newest two Taylor Swift albums are better than the newest Steven Wilson album.

god no... 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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No offense, there's way better pop out there.

like what? 

It will take a long time to list that, but even the newest two Taylor Swift albums are better than the newest Steven Wilson album.

god no... 

I used to one of those close-minded people until I branched beyond progressive rock and progressive metal. There's lots of good music out there and the newest two Taylor Swift albums are actually pretty good. Aaron from the National co-wrote those songs and he is an excellent songwriter. I used to think Taylor Swift was utter trash and the two newest albums have convinced me otherwise. I think while she is not a fantastic musician, her newest two records are at least decent. Why would Steven Wilson cover her latest song from Folklore? Embarrassed
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

No offense, there's way better pop out there.

like what? 

It will take a long time to list that, but even the newest two Taylor Swift albums are better than the newest Steven Wilson album.

god no... 

I used to one of those close-minded people until I branched beyond progressive rock and progressive metal. There's lots of good music out there and the newest two Taylor Swift albums are actually pretty good. Aaron from the National co-wrote those songs and he is an excellent songwriter. I used to think Taylor Swift was utter trash and the two newest albums have convinced me otherwise. I think while she is not a fantastic musician, her newest two records are at least decent. Why would Steven Wilson cover her latest song from Folklore? Embarrassed

I do not listen exclusively to prog (rock and metal) and I listen to all sorts of music, but I will never be able to enjoy some one like Swift. And I tried a little bit. Plus you hear her music without ever wanting to as well. Dead
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

No offense, there's way better pop out there.

like what? 

It will take a long time to list that, but even the newest two Taylor Swift albums are better than the newest Steven Wilson album.

god no... 

I used to one of those close-minded people until I branched beyond progressive rock and progressive metal. There's lots of good music out there and the newest two Taylor Swift albums are actually pretty good. Aaron from the National co-wrote those songs and he is an excellent songwriter. I used to think Taylor Swift was utter trash and the two newest albums have convinced me otherwise. I think while she is not a fantastic musician, her newest two records are at least decent. Why would Steven Wilson cover her latest song from Folklore? Embarrassed

I do not listen exclusively to prog (rock and metal) and I listen to all sorts of music, but I will never be able to enjoy some one like Swift. And I tried a little bit. Plus you hear her music without ever wanting to as well. Dead

Then try her two newest records if you are truly open-minded. It is way different than anything she has released. 



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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

No offense, there's way better pop out there.

like what? 

It will take a long time to list that, but even the newest two Taylor Swift albums are better than the newest Steven Wilson album.

god no... 

I used to one of those close-minded people until I branched beyond progressive rock and progressive metal. There's lots of good music out there and the newest two Taylor Swift albums are actually pretty good. Aaron from the National co-wrote those songs and he is an excellent songwriter. I used to think Taylor Swift was utter trash and the two newest albums have convinced me otherwise. I think while she is not a fantastic musician, her newest two records are at least decent. Why would Steven Wilson cover her latest song from Folklore? Embarrassed

I do not listen exclusively to prog (rock and metal) and I listen to all sorts of music, but I will never be able to enjoy some one like Swift. And I tried a little bit. Plus you hear her music without ever wanting to as well. Dead

Then try her two newest records if you are truly open-minded. It is way different than anything she has released. 

I don't think that if I dislike Swift makes me close-minded, I don't even like her vocals/voice. 
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That's fine, but to write her off as just utter-sh*te is not fair. There are far sh*ttier pop records out there like the Future Bites.
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

That's fine, but to write her off as just utter-sh*te is not fair. There are far sh*ttier pop records out there like the Future Bites.

I did not say that she's "utter-sh*te" (your words not mine), just that i dislike her. Big difference. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

That's fine, but to write her off as just utter-sh*te is not fair. There are far sh*ttier pop records out there like the Future Bites.

I did not say that she's "utter-sh*te" (your words not mine), just that i dislike her. Big difference. 



Fair enough, but then why did Steven Wilson cover a song from Taylor Swift's Folklore album? Embarrassed
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

That's fine, but to write her off as just utter-sh*te is not fair. There are far sh*ttier pop records out there like the Future Bites.

I did not say that she's "utter-sh*te" (your words not mine), just that i dislike her. Big difference. 

Fair enough, but then why did Steven Wilson cover a song from Taylor Swift's Folklore album? Embarrassed

Maybe Wilson liked that song. 
I don't know that cover, will you post a listening link, please? 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

That's fine, but to write her off as just utter-sh*te is not fair. There are far sh*ttier pop records out there like the Future Bites.

I did not say that she's "utter-sh*te" (your words not mine), just that i dislike her. Big difference. 

Fair enough, but then why did Steven Wilson cover a song from Taylor Swift's Folklore album? Embarrassed

Maybe Wilson liked that song. 
I don't know that cover, will you post a listening link, please? 

I already did. Look above.
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Aaron from the National co-wrote all of the songs on the latest two Taylor Swift albums, including that song. He's a great songwriter and knows how to write good memorable poppy songs.
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

That's fine, but to write her off as just utter-sh*te is not fair. There are far sh*ttier pop records out there like the Future Bites.

I did not say that she's "utter-sh*te" (your words not mine), just that i dislike her. Big difference. 

Fair enough, but then why did Steven Wilson cover a song from Taylor Swift's Folklore album? Embarrassed

Maybe Wilson liked that song. 
I don't know that cover, will you post a listening link, please? 

I already did. Look above.

"meh". 
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I think the problem with Steven Wilson is that he's not really good at writing pop. He should stick to his strengths.Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

That's fine, but to write her off as just utter-sh*te is not fair. There are far sh*ttier pop records out there like the Future Bites.

I did not say that she's "utter-sh*te" (your words not mine), just that i dislike her. Big difference. 

Fair enough, but then why did Steven Wilson cover a song from Taylor Swift's Folklore album? Embarrassed

Maybe Wilson liked that song. 
I don't know that cover, will you post a listening link, please? 

I already did. Look above.

"meh". 


I bet if you do a sort of an experimental, blind hearing test, people will think differently about that song.
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

I think the problem with Steven Wilson is that he's not really good at writing pop. He should stick to his strengths.Embarrassed
And repeat himself 156 times? Why would he do that? He is the artist, so he decides which way to go. He's not some musical bitch! I think he writes great pop songs, and he's done it since the very first Porcupine Tree album - Piano Lessons, Four Chords That Made a Million, Drown With Me, Lazarus, Hand Cannot Erase, My Book of Regrets, Permanating, Song of I are some of the songs that could fit the pop tag, and are pretty cool!
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

I think the problem with Steven Wilson is that he's not really good at writing pop. He should stick to his strengths.Embarrassed
And repeat himself 156 times? Why would he do that? He is the artist, so he decides which way to go. He's not some musical bitch! I think he writes great pop songs, and he's done it since the very first Porcupine Tree album - Piano Lessons, Four Chords That Made a Million, Drown With Me, Lazarus, Hand Cannot Erase, My Book of Regrets, Permanating, Song of I are some of the songs that could fit the pop tag, and are pretty cool!

Those are quite different than the direction he's taken on this record. I don't think many of those songs are as good as his more progressive songs. Not even close. He's not Benny Andersson or Paul McCartney.
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Poor Steven. If he does prog he’s chastised for doing retro-music that he preferably should leave to the classic bands..be unique or go home!
Then when he does something different he’s accused of not being true to his pork roots.
He just can’t win.
Personally I would like Steve Wilson to do whatever he feels like. If it’s good music I’ll probably end up buying it - regardless of the tag.
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Aaron from the National co-wrote all of the songs on the latest two Taylor Swift albums, including that song. He's a great songwriter and knows how to write good memorable poppy songs.

You say that like it's a good thing. 
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Nothing wrong with Taylor Swift. And there’s nothing wrong with pop. I interviewed Julia Marcell after her prog-pop album Skull Echo was released last year, and one of the things we talked about was the narrow-minded thought processes a lot of so-called progressive fans have towards pop. It’s like it’s anathema to some people if a band dare go pop - especially if they experience commercial success because of it.

As for SW, he has definitely been doing pop since the beginning. The one song that doesn’t work for me as well as the others on TFB is 12 Things, because it is so similar to songs like Lazarus from his past.
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Poor Steven. If he does prog he’s chastised for doing retro-music that he preferably should leave to the classic bands..be unique or go home!
Then when he does something different he’s accused of not being true to his pork roots.
He just can’t win.
Personally I would like Steve Wilson to do whatever he feels like. If it’s good music I’ll probably end up buying it - regardless of the tag.

^THIS! Clap

There's something to be said about being obscure. When you go in a different direction, your one or two fans get over it in about 5 to 15 minutes and usually you never know that they were upset to begin with.


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