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    Posted: January 21 2021 at 20:27
What band or artist who isn't or wasn't strictly prog would make or would have made the best prog? Who'd have had the most artistic success in the world of prog who went a different direction instead? Who did one or two things that were prog and they were great, ditched that for some other style, but would have been a favorite prog artist of yours had they done more prog?

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Toto for instance.
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The one that sticks out for me is Bad Religion who are obviously a punk band, but who put out one album that was decidedly less punk, and more prog.
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Not sure they done anything strictly speaking prog rock, but XTC or Talk Talk would have been good prog peddlers.
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The original incarnation of Cky with Deron Miller at the helm. It was ALMOST what I'd argue crossover, especially their final album Carver City in 2009. Predictable pop rock arrangements with heavier riffs and synth interludes/odd mete sh*t thrown in. Plagued by Images and Imaginary Threats immediately come to mind as solid examples of this.

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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Not sure they done anything strictly speaking prog rock, but XTC or Talk Talk would have been good prog peddlers.

Agree with you on XTC...I think Partridge and the gang could have easily done some prog if they had wanted to. 
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The Allman Brothers and Grateful Dead certainly had proggy moments.
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Off the top of my head...

I think Billy Joel could have pulled off a prog album. David Bowie could have pulled off one too.

ELO started off in mix of prog and pop. If they had gone in the prog direction, I think they could have pulled off a decent album or two. 

Scott Walker would also be high on my list too if he had started with the avant-garde stuff right after Scott 4.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Off the top of my head...

I think Billy Joel could have pulled off a prog album. David Bowie could have pulled off one too.

ELO started off in mix of prog and pop. If they had gone in the prog direction, I think they could have pulled off a decent album or two. 

Scott Walker would also be high on my list too if he had started with the avant-garde stuff right after Scott 4.

Intersting. On a similar note, I think Elton John would've done super well with prog.
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I don’t really understand why Scott Walker’s first albums preclude him from being considered prog. There are plenty of bands and artists who had albums that were less (or not) prog in their discographies in the PA database. His latter albums are almost inarguably progressive, starting with his contributions to the final Walker Brothers album. That album alone has been a major stated influence for many prog bands and artists, let alone what he has done since.

I’ve always thought Duran Duran would have made a great prog band. They came close at times, to be fair, and particularly on their albums. Like many bands, the well-known singles aren’t entirely representative of what you might find on the albums.

Blur is another band that had that same dichotomy - where the singles pointed one way, and the album tracks another. I never had any real interest in Blur, until someone played me one of their albums, and I realised there was more to them than the singles suggested.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Toto for instance.

I agree. Apparently they came close at times.

Also, Steely Dan, XTC, The Tubes, Led Zeppelin and ELO(I know some consider ELO prog but more like art rock imo).
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I'll probably say Lou Reed (as a solo artist).
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Not sure they done anything strictly speaking prog rock, but XTC or Talk Talk would have been good prog peddlers.
Agree with you on XTC...I think Partridge and the gang could have easily done some prog if they had wanted to.

They actually did, no? Under the Dukes of the Stratosphere moniker... (don't know if they're on PA, though).

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Not sure they done anything strictly speaking prog rock, but XTC or Talk Talk would have been good prog peddlers.
Agree with you on XTC...I think Partridge and the gang could have easily done some prog if they had wanted to.

They actually did, no? Under the Dukes of the Stratosphere moniker... (don't know if they're on PA, though).
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The Damned did a similar thing (Give the Knife to Daddy, Cindy by Naz Nomad and the nightmares) but nowhere near as succesfully..

Actually, the Damned are a good shout for this thread.. the Black album has some very prog moments (Curtain call)

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Definitely Big Country...a brilliant band...some of their longer songs and especially the 12" singles were very prog leaning. BC comprised four extra-special musicians.
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A few more: Men at Work, REM, The Cure, U2, Tears For Fears and the Fixx. A lot of eighties bands were just around in the "wrong decade" imo. Also, A Flock of Seagulls who had a track on their 1982 album which has a melody that more or less ripped off "the revealing science of god." Just try to tell me some of those new wavers weren't at least at little bit influenced by or inspired by prog. I dare you. TongueLOL

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Not sure they done anything strictly speaking prog rock, but XTC or Talk Talk would have been good prog peddlers.
Agree with you on XTC...I think Partridge and the gang could have easily done some prog if they had wanted to.

They actually did, no? Under the Dukes of the Stratosphere moniker... (don't know if they're on PA, though).

The Dukes of Stratosphear were more or less a tribute to psychedelia and not really prog at all. I know some psych is considered prog by some but this stuff was the more singles oriented kind of psych as opposed to long winded freakouts. You are right in that the Dukes of Stratosphear were XTC under a different name though.


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The first album of Foals is quite proggy (or math rocky) at times, and some proggy elements show up on occasion in their later work. I think they'd be very well able to come up with something that qualifies as briliant prog while still being as outrageously catchy as they often are... in fact injecting more prog would be a quite promising direction to go on from where they are. (I doubt that this is how they themselves see it unfortunately.)

Sufjan Stevens has quite a bit of stuff that scores above 80/100 on the progometer, and he may come around the corner with even more at any moment... or do something totally different.



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