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    Posted: December 08 2020 at 10:14
A friend recommended this album to me recently, but this thread's Not About Us, it's about Genesis' much-derided Calling All Stations album, featuring Scottish singer Ray Wilson. I know There Must Be Some Other Way of saying this, but I'm actually beginning to like the album. I know the album's as dodgy as sailing down the Congo in a leaky boat during Uncertain Weather on an Alien Afternoon, but it's one of those strange albums that's on The Dividing Line between being good and bad, If That's What You Need to Hear. Call me an old fool, but One Man's Fool is another man's saviour, or so they say. Anyway, that's enough Small Talk for now, because it's time to feature my favourite track from the album, which is: Shipwrecked! Cry Broken Heart
 
 
All songs in Blue highlights from the Calling All Stations album
 


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Oh no no no; some albums by prog bands straying into a genre they can't tackle convincingly at least have an unintentional comedic element to them, but to see one of the greatest prog bands humiliating themselves by playing this primitive, colourless and utterly lifeless watered-down grunge crap is depressing to the point where I’ve never been able to get through this album in one sitting. To put this out under the Genesis moniker should be a crime; avoid unless you’re a big Nickelback fan.

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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Oh no no no; some albums by prog bands straying into a genre they can't tackle convincingly at least have an unintentional comedic element to them, but to see one of the greatest prog bands humiliating themselves by playing this primitive, colourless and utterly lifeless watered-down grunge crap is depressing to the point where I’ve never been able to get through this album in one sitting. To put this out under the Genesis moniker should be a crime; avoid unless you’re a big Nickelback fan.


I can't stand Nickelback and their vocalist. Are you sure you listened to Ray Wilson?

Had this album been released under another name, like maybe Banks, Rutherford & Wilson, or something else, it would have got less hate. 
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Peter Gabriel = David Lee Roth.
 
Phil Collins = Sammy Hagar.
 
Ray Wilson = Gary Cherone.
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Oh no no no; some albums by prog bands straying into a genre they can't tackle convincingly at least have an unintentional comedic element to them, but to see one of the greatest prog bands humiliating themselves by playing this primitive, colourless and utterly lifeless watered-down grunge crap is depressing to the point where I’ve never been able to get through this album in one sitting. To put this out under the Genesis moniker should be a crime; avoid unless you’re a big Nickelback fan.

I agree, the album sounds nothing like the Genesis we all know and love, but if I judge the album on its own merits, without thinking of it as a Genesis album, then it's not bad at all, or at least, that's what I keep telling myself anyway.  Smile
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Peter Gabriel = David Lee Roth.
 
Phil Collins = Sammy Hagar.
 
Ray Wilson = Gary Cherone.

I disagree

Hagar was a better singer than Roth
I think the same with Gabriel being better for me than Collins.

Both Wilson and Cherone are both great singers, and it's not their fault the albums they were on flopped. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Peter Gabriel = David Lee Roth.
 
Phil Collins = Sammy Hagar.
 
Ray Wilson = Gary Cherone.

I disagree

 
That figures. LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Both Wilson and Cherone are both great singers, and it's not their fault the albums they were on flopped. 
I might agree with you if I knew who Gary Cherone is. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Both Wilson and Cherone are both great singers, and it's not their fault the albums they were on flopped. 
I might agree with you if I knew who Gary Cherone is. Smile

Gary Cherone was the singer of Extreme and the third Van Halen singer, on the album strangely called Van Halen III in 1998. A rather weak album and poor Gary got the blame. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Both Wilson and Cherone are both great singers, and it's not their fault the albums they were on flopped. 
I might agree with you if I knew who Gary Cherone is. Smile

Gary Cherone was the singer of Extreme and the third Van Halen singer, on the album strangely called Van Halen III in 1998. A rather weak album and poor Gary got the blame. 
...In just the same way as poor Ray Wilson got the blame for the Calling All Stations album. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Both Wilson and Cherone are both great singers, and it's not their fault the albums they were on flopped. 
I might agree with you if I knew who Gary Cherone is. Smile

Gary Cherone was the singer of Extreme and the third Van Halen singer, on the album strangely called Van Halen III in 1998. A rather weak album and poor Gary got the blame. 
...In just the same way as poor Ray Wilson got the blame for the Calling All Stations album. Smile

yes, kinda similar situation. 
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Are you starting to see the connections?
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I noticed in the credits for Calling All Stations that Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were named as Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. It's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with the album, in the same way as Mike Oldfield distanced himself from his inferior Heaven's Open album by naming himself Michael Oldfield on the album cover. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I noticed in the credits for Calling All Stations that Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were named as Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. It's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with the album, in the same way as Mike Oldfield distanced himself from his inferior Heaven's Open album by naming himself Michael Oldfield on the album cover. Smile

just checked the CD and it says Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks. I don't know what you mean. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I noticed in the credits for Calling All Stations that Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were named as Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. It's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with the album, in the same way as Mike Oldfield distanced himself from his inferior Heaven's Open album by naming himself Michael Oldfield on the album cover. Smile

just checked the CD and it says Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks. I don't know what you mean. 
If you take a look at the credits at the end of the Shipwrecked video above, it says Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I noticed in the credits for Calling All Stations that Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were named as Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. It's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with the album, in the same way as Mike Oldfield distanced himself from his inferior Heaven's Open album by naming himself Michael Oldfield on the album cover. Smile

just checked the CD and it says Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks. I don't know what you mean. 
If you take a look at the credits at the end of the Shipwrecked video above, it says Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. Smile

I don't watch videos so...
They used their full names in the past, I don't think it because they want to detach themselves from the album. 
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I only know the title track because I borrowed a Genesis triple CD from the library years ago and it was on it.  I enjoy select post 1980 songs by Genesis and Calling all Stations is one of those
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I noticed in the credits for Calling All Stations that Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were named as Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. It's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with the album, in the same way as Mike Oldfield distanced himself from his inferior Heaven's Open album by naming himself Michael Oldfield on the album cover. Smile


I don't suppose too many people are going to be fooled by that. Wink

As others have said, if they hadn't brought it out under the Genesis name it would have had a better reaction. It's an ok album but it's not really Genesis.

At least it's better than Love Bitch.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I noticed in the credits for Calling All Stations that Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were named as Anthony Banks and Michael Rutherford. It's almost as if they didn't want to be associated with the album, in the same way as Mike Oldfield distanced himself from his inferior Heaven's Open album by naming himself Michael Oldfield on the album cover. Smile


I don't suppose too many people are going to be fooled by that. Wink

As others have said, if they hadn't brought it out under the Genesis name it would have had a better reaction. It's an ok album but it's not really Genesis.
Yes, it's more like a Ray Wilson album with two members of Genesis as his backing band. Smile
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There's something comical about progarchives starting a thread on the worst, most bottom of the barrel, no semblance of prog, Genesis album rather than discussing some new and exciting prog releases. Anyways, anyone here check out the new Ocean Collective album? Pretty good stuff.
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