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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

What's polarizing about it? I think 99% of people agree its a classic album with relatively strong pop rock songs front to back.

I agree, I spin it more than any other album of that era and genre, Eagles Hotel California comes in close 2nd. 
Rumours is a brilliant album with amazing song writing by the whole band, and showed how talented they all are especially Stevie Nicks back in '77, what was she like 16yrs old or something LOL.


Nicks is born in 1948, do the math. Big smileLOL

In 1977, I could careless when she was born, I was 12.......Friggin smokin HOT!! 
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

What's polarizing about it? I think 99% of people agree its a classic album with relatively strong pop rock songs front to back.

I agree, I spin it more than any other album of that era and genre, Eagles Hotel California comes in close 2nd. 
Rumours is a brilliant album with amazing song writing by the whole band, and showed how talented they all are especially Stevie Nicks back in '77, what was she like 16yrs old or something LOL.


Nicks is born in 1948, do the math. Big smileLOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2020 at 00:59
"Go your own way" is one of my favorite FM songs!  

Lindsay sings the vocals, I used to think it was Stevie Nicks!  Buckingham is also a hell of a good guitarist.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Ya know...I'm a bit disappointed that the 'proggers' here are discussing Rumours.....does anyone know if Progressive Ears are accepting new members...?

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It ain't disappointing at all, proggers are the ones who should be discussing this. Wink
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Ya know...I'm a bit disappointed that the 'proggers' here are discussing Rumours.....does anyone know if Progressive Ears are accepting new members...?

LOL

see the snob thread for more details Shocked
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Ya know...I'm a bit disappointed that the 'proggers' here are discussing Rumours.....does anyone know if Progressive Ears are accepting new members...?

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really Puppy??... when you show me kiddies starting polls 40 years later about their albums being overrated.. then I'll consider them equivalent to the point i made with Rumours  

and dont you dare diss New Kids...  not only one of the best concerts I ever saw...  probably the best sex i ever had for actually allowing myself to be talked into going to it. An open mind can lead to open legs..  no wonder proggers are such sad souls...




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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

overrated in that the Welch era albums like Bare Trees and especially Future Games were probably better albums..  but it was a great album.. albums do not become overexposed without first being a great album. .see Dark Side of the Moon

and it did have Stevie.. and she alone merits classic status...



I dunno. Milli Vanilli, Tiffany, New Kids on the Block were all over exposed at one time and I doubt many would call their teeny bopper crap classic :D

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overrated in that the Welch era albums like Bare Trees and especially Future Games were probably better albums..  but it was a great album.. albums do not become overexposed without first being a great album. .see Dark Side of the Moon

and it did have Stevie.. and she alone merits classic status...


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Over exposed....yes.  Over rated....no.

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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

So basically you don't like it so therefore it's overrated. Is it overplayed? For sure but it's a classic album for a reason.

Never said I don't like it. Perhaps, I love one half and despise the other... don't know where this stands on the like-dislike spectrum. Tongue


Personally I prefer the term over exposed. Tastes may vary regarding how much we all like classic albums but hearing albums too much can help us hate albums that otherwise pretty good. I have to be in the right mood every few years to want to hear this album but still have to admit that it's brilliant pop music

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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

What's polarizing about it? I think 99% of people agree its a classic album with relatively strong pop rock songs front to back.

I agree, I spin it more than any other album of that era and genre, Eagles Hotel California comes in close 2nd. 
Rumours is a brilliant album with amazing song writing by the whole band, and showed how talented they all are especially Stevie Nicks back in '77, what was she like 16yrs old or something LOL.

I have several copies of the album my original version, a Steve Hoffman/Kevin Gray remastered version cut at RTI which is absolutely stunning!! And just picked up a clear LP version pressed at Optimal Media GmbH at Walmart for US$12, such a deal. Sound is not as good as the Hoffman version, but much better than my CD version.

Brilliant album.
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they are one of the only hugely successful groups that I love..so I am very protective of them!
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I'm not sure if anyone covered this or not but if Rumors didn't exist we wouldn't have a video of a guy on a skateboard drinking cranberry juice lip syncing Dreams, so there's that. Confused
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I wouldn't call the Soap Opera Fleetwood over-rated.

If anything I think the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac is over-rated, nowadays. Outside their excellent Then Play On (both US and European version), most of their albums are just average blues-rock albums (don't get me wrong, I love blues rock) with the odd cool hits. Sooo, I can't help but thinking that if FM ever is over-rated in the band's career, it would've been nowadays, when talking of their 68/71 era.


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How is Peter Green era overrated?! The mainstream listener does not even know it exists. 
There are FM compilations that only include Steve Nicks era songs. 

It's only listeners that are into blues that listen to the Peter Green albums. 



There are many comilation and archives exploitation discs of the Peter Green-only era.... probably more than the Soap opera years.

As for being over-rated, they can be so within a genre niche (blues-related music), and I think yoy're understimate the PGFM popularity in both classic rock and mainstream. They had many hits in their early days, which are still getting airplay today.


I don't think I underestimate at all. I've seen a couple of docs about FM, and guess which era of the band was praised the most. The Nicks era obviously. 

PGFM are only popular for people who like blues. And Peter Green deserves all the appreciation and fame he's got. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I wouldn't call the Soap Opera Fleetwood over-rated.

If anything I think the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac is over-rated, nowadays. Outside their excellent Then Play On (both US and European version), most of their albums are just average blues-rock albums (don't get me wrong, I love blues rock) with the odd cool hits. Sooo, I can't help but thinking that if FM ever is over-rated in the band's career, it would've been nowadays, when talking of their 68/71 era.


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How is Peter Green era overrated?! The mainstream listener does not even know it exists. 
There are FM compilations that only include Steve Nicks era songs. 

It's only listeners that are into blues that listen to the Peter Green albums. 



There are many compilation and archives exploitation discs of the Peter Green-only era.... probably more than the Soap opera years. Wink

As for being over-rated, they can be so within a genre niche (blues-related music), and I think you understimate the PGFM popularity in both classic rock and mainstream. They had many hits in their early days, which are still getting airplay today.




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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I wouldn't call the Soap Opera Fleetwood over-rated.

If anything I think the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac is over-rated, nowadays. Outside their excellent Then Play On (both US and European version), most of their albums are just average blues-rock albums (don't get me wrong, I love blues rock) with the odd cool hits. Sooo, I can't help but thinking that if FM ever is over-rated in the band's career, it would've been nowadays, when talking of their 68/71 era.


I do not understand. Confused
How is Peter Green era overrated?! The mainstream listener does not even know it exists. 
There are FM compilations that only include Steve Nicks era songs. 

It's only listeners that are into blues that listen to the Peter Green albums. 

You're right! Before I went online in 2010, the only Fleetwood Mac song I'd heard before the Stevie Nicks era was "Albatross", mainly because that's the only Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac song that gets played regularly on the radio. Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I wouldn't call the Soap Opera Fleetwood over-rated.

If anything I think the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac is over-rated, nowadays. Outside their excellent Then Play On (both US and European version), most of their albums are just average blues-rock albums (don't get me wrong, I love blues rock) with the odd cool hits. Sooo, I can't help but thinking that if FM ever is over-rated in the band's career, it would've been nowadays, when talking of their 68/71 era.


I do not understand. Confused
How is Peter Green era overrated?! The mainstream listener does not even know it exists. 
There are FM compilations that only include Steve Nicks era songs. 

It's only listeners that are into blues that listen to the Peter Green albums. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2020 at 01:48
I wouldn't call the Soap Opera Fleetwood over-rated.

If anything I think the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac is over-rated, nowadays. Outside their excellent Then Play On (both US and European version), most of their albums are just average blues-rock albums (don't get me wrong, I love blues rock) with the odd cool hits. Sooo, I can't help but thinking that if FM ever is over-rated in the band's career, it would've been nowadays, when talking of their 68/71 era.



Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

I would not call it overrated. Like it or not, it's a rock solid album.


Yup,probably the best-selling Yacht Rock album of all time.

Their previous one (FM) was not nearly as good, and TBH, I always found Tusk a waste of electricity and decibels.
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