Roger Waters - The Pros & Cons of Going Solo |
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Psychedelic Paul
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One of the obvious pros of going solo is, an artist is free to realise their artistic vision without the constraints of being in a band, but one of the cons is, an artist's solo albums might not receive the recognition they truly deserve, and may be met by The Wall of indifference in The Final Cut. I have High Hopes that this thread will go some way to change that by featuring some of Roger Waters lesser-known songs over the last fifty years, starting by going all the way back to 1970.
Roger Waters' Discography & Videography 1970: Roger Waters & Ron Geesin - Music from the Body - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kYi_W9V4PGdQqF16qM1-aXK1eKrH7tQAs 1977: Pink Floyd - Animals - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHTo__bpnlYVrog7mExJ_e_h9WfH9FYzB 1979: Pink Floyd - The Wall - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nE3dmeYl_9Jgv2CT0aqufkDcyB6BBMcGM 1983: Pink Floyd - The Final Cut - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFEDE25F4A684239E 1984: Roger Waters - The Pros & Cons of Hitch Hiking - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l4S4hqzoPYGSTOnbGutKs28BGGLoCNfHI 1986: Roger Waters - When the Wind Blows (soundtrack) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHcPTPk2B4oyVVKA-cNwccoKqQ6h7YGFZ 1987: Roger Waters - Radio K.A.O.S. - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koI10jUmXAaS4Dr1TJKWk8NW4l9cWbrv4 1990: Roger Waters - The Wall - Live in Berlin - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyGHs2yXwu1Sg4DXha46hfqGs6LarGe8w 1992: Roger Waters - Amused to Death - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ka1U3tes8Atdy1A_8oxGbPw7qVyg2qhIQ 2000: Roger Waters - In the Flesh - Live - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTWsuyDYRM 2005: Roger Waters - Ca Ira - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lN1_1cC7SPRFct9GprFWnNvLDspc7M214 2006: Roger Waters - Dark Side of the Moon Tour (unreleased) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDYL-ywrLcs 2010: Roger Waters - The Wall - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAtusYxDlaw 2017: Roger Waters - Is This the Life We Really Want - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mPigivZV2DMiN4zZXBZyuFIWJeIZ4PfJY 2020: Roger Waters - Us + Them - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiUeWr3oVtc 2022: Roger Waters - The Lockdown Sessions - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kHSppQrHjZrehfvgTQBS9nwG9b-dCKqZE 2023: Roger Waters - This is Not a Drill: Live in Prague - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDXojvpCl2I 2023: Roger Waters - The Dark Side of the Moon Redux - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDhajrZgo0TLJDDMa0XI_zqybDzGBoWfH Roger Waters - Give Birth to a Smile , from the soundtrack album, Music for the Body (1970), featuring Ron Geesin & the other three members of Pink Floyd on this final song from the album. Edited by Psychedelic Paul - May 30 2024 at 11:35 |
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Let me know when you actually get to the Pros And Cons album.
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Which was, apparently, going to a Pink Floyd album until it all went pear-shaped. 'Amused to Death' is head and shoulders above anything else in his solo canon, I reckon.
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Psychedelic Paul
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That would be right about now at 5:01am. The title track and my favourite song from the album. |
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Enjoyable album, it is not on par with the Floyd classics but I think he did a great job with the concept and the songwriting.
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Amused To Death and ITTLWRW? stand out to me and are enjoyable albums.
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Hi, Disgraceful ... that you would ignore the best song in there ... "Our Song" ... making all the others sound silly and shmoozy! Edited by moshkito - November 10 2020 at 07:29 |
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Hi, "Amused to Death" is (for me) his best solo album. It has a lot more material that anyone can select and play within a rock show. After that, I would select "Radio Kaos", solely because it is true and right on, even if it was just a thing about Jim Ladd and some of his adventures in LA the most famous of which was the night that the number 1 FM Rock station disappeared only to become a new wave station 5 minutes later ... nothing was ever said, meaning that many folks got a pay out to say nothing, and life continued and in a place like LA with so many incendiary bands and stuff ... no one gave a damn. That makes "Radio Kaos" way more important, but in the end it signified the end of "FM Radio's" importance and how some corporate folks thought about the whole thing ... they didn't care about the music or the work that had been done into getting into number 1. So when you hear ... "radio waste" ... you know what it means, but the funny/weird thing is that RW never said anything about the BBC, which was worse than the American c**terpart corporations, who at least ... (big fisting deal!!!) had an hour or two per week ... let's see 24x7 equals and they only play one of two hours? I have not heard, in its entirety, the last album and won't comment on it until I listen to it. But, honestly, I have not gotten the CD's of a couple of the albums, because there are a lot more things I want to get that are way more interesting than RW ... and another version of The Wall ... not even for toilet paper, thank you!
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It is a decent album, even though the first 31 minutes are a somewhat dragging waltz. Radio KAOS is slightly better, but Amused to Death is obviously his best work. I find his last album also rather enjoyable.
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Overall, I'd choose In the Flesh (2000) as my favourite Roger Waters album. |
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the live album?
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"Is This the World We Really Want" has passed under my radar, so it is one yet to explore... I've always liked The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking and listen to it regularly in my car, but I think indeed that Amused to Death is his best. I'm less impressed by his (or PFs) soundtrack work.
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Yes, it's a live album and it's one of the best concerts I've ever seen, having watched it again this afternoon. I wasn't sure if I'm still allowed to post the full concert here, so I've provided the YouTube link instead.
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most of that live album is Pink Floyd, so I wouldn't mention it as relevant Roger Waters solo.
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That's true, although the concert doesn't feature any other members of Pink Floyd in the flesh.
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the live album? [/QUOTE]
Yes, it's a live album and it's one of the best concerts I've ever seen, having watched it again this afternoon. I wasn't sure if I'm still allowed to post the full concert here, so I've provided the YouTube link instead.
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most of that live album is Pink Floyd, so I wouldn't mention it as relevant Roger Waters solo. [/QUOTE]
That's true, although the concert doesn't feature any other members of Pink Floyd in the flesh. [/QUOTE]
it's just Roger(and his band) doing Floyd and some of his solo work, but PF music dominates. Edited by Cristi - November 10 2020 at 12:42 |
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Are you serious!?? "Our Song" is just a collection of silly noises - sounding like someone with indigestion - and not really a song at all.
Edited by Psychedelic Paul - November 10 2020 at 13:54 |
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I don't know about you, but I've always considered The Wall and The Final Cut to be Roger Waters solo projects anyway, and not collaborative Pink Floyd albums.
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even on the Wall, Gilmour and Ezrin arranged a few things. Waters has got 4 good albums, you can't just disregard them like that...
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The piece of work which became Pros and Cons was presented to the rest of the band alongside demos of The Wall. The latter was preferred over the former. Waters then went on to overwhelmingly make The Final Cut and then only recorded Pros and Cons as a solo piece after he left Floyd. Pros and Cons was never going to be a Floyd album once The Wall was decided upon as the album in 1979.
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