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^Right. Got it.
I'm glad this thread was revived. Modern Prog needs appreciation!
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^Right. Got it.
I'm glad this thread was revived. Modern Prog needs appreciation!
^I'll build on that. Since Modern/New Prog does not have it's own sub-genre section - which is right, since it isn't a sub-genre - but, simply because the retro bands get so much more discussion and there is a lot of confusion about (what I call) Modern/New Prog, should I make an index of new prog releases/bands? Very good website for this:
https://newprogreleases.blogspot.com/
It also means I have a list of albums to review. Always another agenda.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^Right. Got it.
I'm glad this thread was revived. Modern Prog needs appreciation!
^I'll build on that. Since Modern/New Prog does not have it's own sub-genre section - which is right, since it isn't a sub-genre - but, simply because the retro bands get so much more discussion and there is a lot of confusion about (what I call) Modern/New Prog, should I make an index of new prog releases/bands? Very good website for this:
https://newprogreleases.blogspot.com/
It also means I have a list of albums to review. Always another agenda.


Yeah, it's a good site.
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^Well, I might get round to making this index, but it'll take a long time. 
I'm reccomending two not-well-known-enough bands: Pyramid Theorem and Taskaha (though, to be fair, Taskaha are quite new). Since you apparently can't post videos here, here are links to two of their albums:
Beyond the Exosphere, Pyramid Theorem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOO4y6l-5k8
Taskaha, Taskaha (not on Youtube - Spotify link)
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2no7yBhyRC62GGnYuVlmMo
These two bands are not at all related, by the way. Wink
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You can post individual track videos just don't post full albums (or a set of individual tracks that make up an album) or carpet bomb pages with video after video after video like a certain Svet / Bobo character has a history of doing.

Here's some new modern prog:-



I'm sitting on the floor in front of the drummer freaking out in this clip.


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And here are some French school children being exposed to modern prog, music starts around 3.20.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

You can post individual track videos just don't post full albums (or a set of individual tracks that make up an album) or carpet bomb pages with video after video after video like a certain Svet / Bobo character has a history of doing.

Here's some new modern prog:-



I'm sitting on the floor in front of the drummer freaking out in this clip.
If that's not cool music, I don't know what is. Clap
I actually have never bought any RIO records - though I think I'm missing something after hearing that. Any reccomendations?
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^Suppose not. Well, I think there's a band called Magma that are pretty good in that area, so I'll listen to them.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^Suppose not. Well, I think there's a band called Magma that are pretty good in that area, so I'll listen to them.

Magma started in 1970. They are a zeuhl band, not RIO. 
They returned in the 2000s after a hiatus, they are still making music. 
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The classics to start with are Henry Cow, Univers Zero, Thinking Plague. Let me know what you think and I'll recommend others
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

The classics to start with are Henry Cow, Univers Zero, Thinking Plague. Let me know what you think and I'll recommend others

Those are among the most recommended but there's also Present and Miriodor among several others. Not that I'm an expert. I'm just going by what I know based on others recommendations. I like Magma but as was mentioned they are considered Zheul and not RIO. One of these days I'll take the real plunge into RIO. Wink
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Zeuhl and RIO have hella crossover.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

The classics to start with are Henry Cow, Univers Zero, Thinking Plague. Let me know what you think and I'll recommend others


Those are among the most recommended but there's also Present and Miriodor among several others. Not that I'm an expert. I'm just going by what I know based on others recommendations. I like Magma but as was mentioned they are considered Zheul and not RIO. One of these days I'll take the real plunge into RIO. Wink

Thanks Ian, and AFKC. By the way (sorry if this is utterly insulting) but what is the difference between RIO, avant and Zeuhl, and why do people put them together often? Remember I am totally ignorant in these fields.
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Zeuhl is a genre based on Magma's approach, broadly its bands with a similar approach. Features jazz fusion with heavy driving fuzz bass and normally heavy on keys. Often repetitive and drving.

RIO comes from the original Rock In Opposition movement in the 70s where Henry Cow, Univers Zero and a few others self organized due to lack of label support and promoted each other across Europe. Nowadays it is used to refer to avant garde experimental dissonant bands who merge rock, jazz, classical.

Magma were doing their own thing around the same time as RIO and moved in th same circles. They are probably grouped together as there is plenty of crossover and fans tend to like both.

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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Zeuhl is a genre based on Magma's approach, broadly its bands with a similar approach. Features jazz fusion with heavy driving fuzz bass and normally heavy on keys. Often repetitive and drving.

RIO comes from the original Rock In Opposition movement in the 70s where Henry Cow, Univers Zero and a few others self organized due to lack of label support and promoted each other across Europe. Nowadays it is used to refer to avant garde experimental dissonant bands who merge rock, jazz, classical.

Magma were doing their own thing around the same time as RIO and moved in th same circles. They are probably grouped together as there is plenty of crossover and fans tend to like both.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Zeuhl is a genre based on Magma's approach, broadly its bands with a similar approach. Features jazz fusion with heavy driving fuzz bass and normally heavy on keys. Often repetitive and drving.

RIO comes from the original Rock In Opposition movement in the 70s where Henry Cow, Univers Zero and a few others self organized due to lack of label support and promoted each other across Europe. Nowadays it is used to refer to avant garde experimental dissonant bands who merge rock, jazz, classical.

Magma were doing their own thing around the same time as RIO and moved in th same circles. They are probably grouped together as there is plenty of crossover and fans tend to like both.
Thanks. Smile
I've listened to a bit (like I say, a bit Wink) of RIO - Art Zoyd mainly. 
A new band I recently have been listening to is Barock Project, recommend to all.
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