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kenethlevine
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it's Cristi's cat that is guilty. It has that "sleeping off my misdeeds" look about it
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FatherChristmas
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What, Cristi's cat drove of Paul?
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"Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp
"I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten |
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FatherChristmas
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Anyway, as I asked here... any Pallas fans about here?
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geekfreak
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I’m in the love Neo-Prog and I am a huge fan of both bands you have mentioned and I agree that Discipline’s debut is the most proggy by them |
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
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FatherChristmas
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^He did say the most neo proggy.
I like Discipline too, now I've heard them. I'm very glad there are a lot of Neo fans here, I was worried when I couldn't find an appreciation thread for it (and, as a result, made this one.). I suppose there aren't many Pallas fans about here? (don't know why I'm crying, I'm not a Pallas fan, that's why I asked.)
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Cristi
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wait... what?!
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FatherChristmas
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Should people post reviews on neo prog here, or is it the wrong place?
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FatherChristmas
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No answer for about 22 hours. Well, here's my Love over Fear review. It got some criticism because I only bought the album a day before I wrote it. To be fair, I spent the entire day listening to it (I honestly had nothing else worth doing).
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I've just bought this album yesterday, and it surprised me - in a good way. Before hearing I thought Pendragon had had their day since the album "the Masquerade Overture". Luckily, I was wrong. But I'll get one with the review. The album gets off to an excellent start with fanfare style organs from Clive Nolan on the first track "Everything", before the guitar comes in and bursts into song. This is, in my opinion, one of the best and most important songs on the album as many of it's motifs are repeated in other songs on the album. Anyway, it's a great song and brilliant intro. "Everything" then flows into "Starfish and the Moon", a quiet, simple song featuring only piano and a soft guitar solo in the middle - and Nick Barrett's excellent vocals, of course. The quiet is undisturbed as the next song, the 8-minute opus "Truth and Lies", comes in with more of that soft guitar - do not be deceived, however, as it soon flows into an harrowing guitar solo - in my opinion, the best on the album. As the harsh, storminess of "Truth and Lies" fades away, a mandolin comes in, signifying the begin of "360 Degrees". After the first verse, the drums enter with bombast pronouncing a happy violin melody. The entire song is inspired by the sea, which would make sense as Nick Barrett is curently living in Cornwall. In fact, the entire album seems sea-orientated - even the cover. As "360 Degrees" fades away, in comes "Soul and the Sea" - probably the most musically varied track. It begins, like "Truth and Lies", with a soft guitar. Soon the violin comes in and then the drums, followed by somewhat whispered vocals; until all of a sudden it breaks down into a short piano motif. Then, thunderous guitar and drums enter, the vocals now loud and clear, until it fades out with an acoustic guitar. After "Soul and the Sea" ends, "Eternal Light" begins with a soft but soon loud guitar. After the first lyrics, a motif from "Everything" comes in - and after that, more lyrics, an instrumental section, then yet more lyrics, then the end. I've barely described it there - it is as varied and complex as "Soul and the Sea" - but "Soul and the Sea" gets the most complex prize, as it is much shorter. Then - "Water" - another long song at seven minutes long. It begin only with a soft, sad guitar, but continues to build up and up as the song goes on, with a great, harsh guitar solo not dissimilar to "Truth and Lies". The album continues with "Whirlwind", a fairly short piano song, that fades into the longest track - "Who Really Are We" - that begins with a thunderous guitar riff, which descends into an acoustic passage with drums, but then breaks down - and builds up again with that thunderous guitar riff with added solo. The final lyrics come in, and then... "Afraid of Everything", the final track. It enters with a fairly soft guitar, builds up, then swirls out with a beautiful synth solo. A brilliant outro to a brilliant album. So, to sum up... I didn't want to have my first album review to be five stars for some reason, but here I am forced to. It has both the two requirements I consider for a five star album: 1. The songs are all great. In the words of Special Collaborator chopper, "not a duff track in sight". 2. It works brilliantly as an album. It flows well from song to song, and many songs share motifs. So... five stars. What do you think? |
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chopper
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I think you've summed it up very nicely, an excellent review. The album is an easy 5 stars for me as well. The next thing for you is, if you have the cash, to get the 3 CD box set where you get the acoustic and instrumental versions of the album. The acoustic version in particular is wonderful as well.
Edited by chopper - September 06 2020 at 09:39 |
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tszirmay
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Try Drifting Sun , a stunning band that has great albums .
Edited by tszirmay - September 06 2020 at 10:37 |
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Cristi
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I'm gonna check them out. edit: rather... meh
Edited by Cristi - September 06 2020 at 15:23 |
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geekfreak
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Pallas I’ve got a 2/3 albums of which I haven’t listened to in ages and the last time i played an album it was Dreams Of Men
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FatherChristmas
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Thanks chopper, I liked your review too.
Edited by FatherChristmas - September 07 2020 at 13:22 |
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richardh
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that's a great album , the only thing by Pallas that's really hit me.
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FatherChristmas
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I'll listen to that album, then. I'm new to Pallas.
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Cristi
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I dislike their second album, I don't recommend it, but other than that, you can listen to anything else.
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FatherChristmas
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^Thanks, Cristi.
A sudden thought; what band (that is neither Pendragon nor IQ, of any other old band) is the leading neo prog band today/in recent years? Edited by FatherChristmas - September 09 2020 at 14:52 |
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Grumpyprogfan
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^The ones I mentioned earlier in this thread.
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FatherChristmas
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So... Frost, Sylvan, Sanguine Hum and the Psychedelic Ensemble? I understand Sylvan are quite famous. Psychedelic Ensemble come up as "hidden or obscure gems" on the neo prog discography page, though.
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Cristi
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Satellite, Collage, Quidam, Jadis, Solstice, Galahad, Galleon, Twelftth Night (originators), Nemo, Cromwell, Ziff
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