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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2020 at 03:35
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

This is the only Yes studio album I've never bought and never heard. I've heard a track here and there but not the whole thing. Maybe I'll get it eventually but it's not a high priority(especially since it has such a lukewarm reputation).
 
I'm hoping to improve Heaven & Earth's lukewarm reputation amongst Yes fans  by posting this thread. Smile

Sorry, you won’t. It excels itself in utter mediocrity.

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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

This is the only Yes studio album I've never bought and never heard. I've heard a track here and there but not the whole thing. Maybe I'll get it eventually but it's not a high priority(especially since it has such a lukewarm reputation).

 
I'm hoping to improve Heaven & Earth's lukewarm reputation amongst Yes fans  by posting this thread. Smile


Sorry, you won’t. It excels itself in utter mediocrity.


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^ Of course I am. Heaven & Earth is my #8 Yes album, way above Relayer, which currently resides at #12. Smile
This is my current Top 10 line-up of Yes albums:-
 
1. The Ladder
2. Talk
3. Going for the One
4. Close to the Edge
5. The Yes Album
6. Fly from Here
7. Magnification
8. Heaven & Earth
9. Tales from Topographic Oceans
10. 90125


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

This is my current Top 10 line-up of Yes albums:-
 
1. The Ladder
2. Talk
3. Going for the One
4. Close to the Edge
5. The Yes Album
6. Fly from Here
7. Magnification
8. Heaven & Earth
9. Tales from Topographic Oceans
10. 90125

One of the most ridiculous lists I've ever seen around here. There, I said it. Evil Smile
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^ You have the right to respectfully disagree, and I'm sure I would find your Yes Top 10 to be equally "ridiculous" too. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ You have the right to respectfully disagree, and I'm sure I would find your Yes Top 10 to be equally "ridiculous" too. Smile

Please have a look at it and tell me what's ridiculous about it. 

here it is, I posted this in your Yes top 7 thread

The Yes Album
self-titled debut
Time & a Word
TFTO
Close to the Edge
Drama
90125


Edited by Cristi - August 26 2020 at 06:07
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ You have the right to respectfully disagree, and I'm sure I would find your Yes Top 10 to be equally "ridiculous" too. Smile

Please have a look at it and tell me what's ridiculous about it. 

here it is, I posted this in your Yes top 7 thread

The Yes Album
self-titled debut
Time & a Word
TFTO
Close to the Edge
Drama
90125
That looks like a perfectly sensible list to me, and not ridiculous at all. Smile
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^ Both lists are personal choices, and both look fine to me.
And remember, regarding The Doors - I rate Other Voices very highly. Yet I’ve never met anyone, not a soul, who rates post-Jim Doors with anything but scorn.
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When I think of you two I often think of The Odd Couple (or an old married couple who often bicker). It's actually quite endearing in a way.

To each his or her own tastes. "In matters of taste, there can be no disputes".

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


^ You have the right to respectfully disagree, and I'm sure I would find your Yes Top 10 to be equally "ridiculous" too. Smile


I have noticed that people say things like "You have the right to respectfully disagree" but I don't hear people saying "You have the right to disrespectfully agree." I'm sure it's been said, I just haven't heard anyone but myself say it. I've also heard "You have the right to be wrong" but not "You have the wrong to be right" or "You have the right to be left and the left to be right."

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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Both lists are personal choices, and both look fine to me.
And remember, regarding The Doors - I rate Other Voices very highly. Yet I’ve never met anyone, not a soul, who rates post-Jim Doors with anything but scorn.

I like Full Circle, I listened to it more than Other Voices. No scorn. I even find two albums with Morrison rather weak, but still listenable - The Soft Parade and Waiting for the Sun. Story goes, for both albums, material the band came with was rejected. The famous example is Celebration of the Lizard, which, ironically, was a crowd favorite when played live. Evil Smile
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Both lists are personal choices, and both look fine to me.
And remember, regarding The Doors - I rate Other Voices very highly. Yet I’ve never met anyone, not a soul, who rates post-Jim Doors with anything but scorn.
 
I wouldn't say I regard The Doors Other Voices album with scorn, but when I watched the 1972 Beat Club performance last night to support the album, I fell asleep. Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Both lists are personal choices, and both look fine to me.
And remember, regarding The Doors - I rate Other Voices very highly. Yet I’ve never met anyone, not a soul, who rates post-Jim Doors with anything but scorn.


I like Full Circle, I listened to it more than Other Voices. No scorn. I even find two albums with Morrison rather weak, but still listenable - The Soft Parade and Waiting for the Sun. Story goes, for both albums, material the band came with was rejected. The famous example is Celebration of the Lizard, which, ironically, was a crowd favorite when played live. Evil Smile
O.K. Full Circle is pretty good. And Soft Parade (I nearly wrote ‘machine’...) is my least fave, does have Shaman, Wild Child and title song but the rest is blah. Waiting for the Sun is my fave Jim album. And it should’ve had Celebration (at least it’s on Absolutely Live).
Oh, and yet another (non) victory to me for derailing the Yes thread

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

When I think of you two I often think of The Odd Couple (or an old married couple who often bicker). It's actually quite endearing in a way.

To each his or her own tastes. "In matters of taste, there can be no disputes".

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


^ You have the right to respectfully disagree, and I'm sure I would find your Yes Top 10 to be equally "ridiculous" too. Smile


I have noticed that people say things like "You have the right to respectfully disagree" but I don't hear people saying "You have the right to disrespectfully agree." I'm sure it's been said, I just haven't heard anyone but myself say it. I've also heard "You have the right to be wrong" but not "You have the wrong to be right" or "You have the right to be left and the left to be right."
 
Cristi & I are indeed an odd couple, and you've made me wonder now if it's really possible to disrespectfully *agree* with someone. Tongue
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Both lists are personal choices, and both look fine to me.
And remember, regarding The Doors - I rate Other Voices very highly. Yet I’ve never met anyone, not a soul, who rates post-Jim Doors with anything but scorn.


I like Full Circle, I listened to it more than Other Voices. No scorn. I even find two albums with Morrison rather weak, but still listenable - The Soft Parade and Waiting for the Sun. Story goes, for both albums, material the band came with was rejected. The famous example is Celebration of the Lizard, which, ironically, was a crowd favorite when played live. Evil Smile
O.K. Full Circle is pretty good. And Soft Parade (I nearly wrote ‘machine’...) is my least fave, does have Shaman, Wild Child and title song but the rest is blah. Waiting for the Sun is my fave Jim album. And it should’ve had Celebration (at least it’s on Absolutely Live).
Oh, and yet another (non) victory to me for derailing the Yes thread

you brought up the Doors LOL
all Doors albums are listenable, some are just more interesting than others.
Some of the rejected songs from the albums mentioned above were released posthumously. Other rejected ideas ended up on An American Prayer. Some were played live. Some were released as bonus tracks on remastered versions. For Example Who Scared You which was supposed to be on The Soft parade. Superb song IMO. Big smile


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ You have the right to respectfully disagree, and I'm sure I would find your Yes Top 10 to be equally "ridiculous" too. Smile

Please have a look at it and tell me what's ridiculous about it. 

here it is, I posted this in your Yes top 7 thread

The Yes Album
self-titled debut
Time & a Word
TFTO
Close to the Edge
Drama
90125
That looks like a perfectly sensible list to me, and not ridiculous at all. Smile
It's clearly ridiculous to rank the debut above TFTO and CTTE. Wink
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^ Maybe we should talk about Yes on The Doors tribute thread to balance things out. Tongue

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - August 26 2020 at 06:37
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ You have the right to respectfully disagree, and I'm sure I would find your Yes Top 10 to be equally "ridiculous" too. Smile

Please have a look at it and tell me what's ridiculous about it. 

here it is, I posted this in your Yes top 7 thread

The Yes Album
self-titled debut
Time & a Word
TFTO
Close to the Edge
Drama
90125
That looks like a perfectly sensible list to me, and not ridiculous at all. Smile
It's clearly ridiculous to rank the debut above TFTO and CTTE. Wink

at least I'm not ranking albums from the 90s ahead of albums from the 70s. LOL
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If you wonder why I like Heaven & Earth much more than the classic Relayer album, I just find Heaven & Earth to be more melodic and easy to listen to than Relayer. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If you wonder why I like Heaven & Earth much more than the classic Relayer album, I just find Heaven & Earth to be more melodic and easy to listen to than Relayer. Smile

is that it?
I've heard cheesy AOR more interesting than H&E. Evil Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If you wonder why I like Heaven & Earth much more than the classic Relayer album, I just find Heaven & Earth to be more melodic and easy to listen to than Relayer. Smile

is that it?
I've heard cheesy AOR more interesting than H&E. Evil Smile
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