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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: July 24 2020 at 17:10 |
^ Ok, apparently she was being arrested and handcuffed but my point is you don't see handcuffs on her at that point. That probably happened soon after the picture was taken. I commend her on her bravery and willingness to engage in civil disobedience though.
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micky
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Posted: July 24 2020 at 17:10 |
ohh.. and few things get me hotter than .. well... suffice to say I do love a good non partisan poltical site. Some of the best writings I've seen have come from them. Discovered another this week.. oh it is isn't new. A lot of us discovered it back in 2016 and yeah its maps customizing them is really cool... but while checking it out this week to see if they had flipped any of the consensus on races I found this. It looks like they have some interesting original content other than just telling us which way the wind of blowing.. as if we really need that haha.
Part of a series leading up to election day of the battleground states. .starting from those with the smallest chances to be competitive to the the true 50-50 coin flip states..
this week.. was Virginia.. a very informative read. Looking forward to this level of analysis from the other states.
very interesting in that Virginia was years ahead the trend that is reshaping politics.. again.. it wasn't Trump.. this began well before him
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: July 24 2020 at 17:06 |
Atavachron wrote:
^ She's being handcuffed. I don't think she's holding anything.
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No, she isn't being handcuffed.That's a bracelet. She is holding her keys or something. This image is more clear than the other one.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - July 24 2020 at 17:07
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micky
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Posted: July 24 2020 at 16:53 |
Atavachron wrote:
^ Perhaps, but don't underestimate the instinctive reaction against uncontrolled rioting & crime, it can impact even the most liberal, conservative and libertarian people.
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I think what is not to be underestimated is the overall shock and awe .. and collective PTSD this country has endured not for the last 4 months.. but the last 3 1/2 f**king years. 
my take.. and I'll be Raff's ranches on it...people are simple numb... this is just one of MANY things that have happened over the last few years
and reactions.. what kind of reactions does one really expect to see. You have 35-40% of the country that thinks this clown is some of cult leader who can do no wrong.... and sure enough.. he's Jonetowning not just them.. but their whole f**king party... and you also have about 50-55% that wouldn't piss on the Toddler on Chief if he was on fire.
so what does that leave.. about roughly 10% of us that.. aren't simply undecided.. they are brain dead and haven't paid attention to much of anything that last 3 plus years. Doubt this is going to make any more indentation onto their thick skulls.
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 17:42 |
Atavachron wrote:
^ Perhaps, but don't underestimate the instinctive reaction against uncontrolled rioting & crime, it can impact even the most liberal, conservative and libertarian people.
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Yes, but today's redneck right winger is almost more anti-authority than many constructive liberals. The different perspectives between you and I might have to do with the different locales in which we live. The right wing anti-authority attitude is strong out here in the southern burbs. Racism is a factor though, there is less tolerance depending on race. If it was a redneck pro gun hugger protest or an anti shutdown protest, the police would seem like demons. EDIT: Reconsidering your post: when you factor in racism, exaggerated fears about antifa, and the fact that professional criminals are taking advantage of the situation, maybe this has a chance of working for him somewhat, Still, images of police and military in riot gear are not real popular with the anti new world order crowd. I don't have a TV, so I may be out of the loop on how the general public sees this. I get most of my perspective from talking/arguing with people on the internet on various sites.
Edited by Easy Money - July 23 2020 at 22:23
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 16:22 |
^ Perhaps, but don't underestimate the instinctive reaction against uncontrolled rioting & crime, it can impact even the most liberal, conservative and libertarian people.
Edited by Atavachron - July 23 2020 at 16:23
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 14:28 |
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I just heard that the Emperor is sending his Storm Troopers to Detroit now too! |
I would be surprised if any of this helps his popularity other than with some older people. Today's right wing crowd, middle-aged and younger, is not really into the police or the military. Police and military are part of the dreaded 'new world order'.
Edited by Easy Money - July 23 2020 at 15:12
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rushfan4
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 13:56 |
I just heard that the Emperor is sending his Storm Troopers to Detroit now too!
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 13:49 |
^ She's being handcuffed. I don't think she's holding anything.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 13:32 |
Is she holding something in her hands? I can't quite make it out.
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 13:23 |
Yep, she's almost levitating.
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 13:12 |
Beauty and the beasts.
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 13:00 |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 10:27 |
^ Someone on the site brought that up and won over a few doubters. I'm usually not smart enough to be that constructive and end up entertaining myself with non-helpful smart-assed remarks.
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 10:17 |
Easy Money wrote:
*frinspar* wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
I voted in person because I don't want to hear any complaints about 'corrupt' mail in votes.
Now I must head back to Nextdoor where I battle with local trumpateers on a daily basis ... up, up and away! |
I can't go there anymore. I auto-delete almost all of the emails when they come in. It really is a hotbed of Trumpists and Qlowns. Signed up years back thinking it might be useful, but it's really the opposite of the idea of community.
| Yeah, it got pretty heated today. People get upset and paranoid about the census of all the stupid things. The census basically supplies statistics that are useful for businesses and individuals, but you would think by what some people say that the government is up to something sinister. The US is coming apart at the seams, four years of hollywood donald have definitely accelerated that. |
Maybe these folks should be introduced to genealogy where they'll see the benefits on a personal level on how useful censuses are.
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 23 2020 at 08:57 |
*frinspar* wrote:
40 years of a dedicated right-wing media campaign has poisoned us for generations. Making the people who vote for them fear things like the census only helps keep those citizens under their thumb. They're afraid of everything. Talk with any of them even for a short time and at the bottom of every single thought they have is deep-seated, irrational fear.
I believe in a healthy exchange of ideas, arguing and working towards compromise, and differing points of view. That keeps us all honest. But what we've allowed to slowly but thoroughly overtake us while we weren't looking hard enough is going to be tough to beat, if at all possible. Trump is the perfect distraction for a lot of people to use as cover who actually know how to get things done. They collectively realized they had a perfect opportunity to do a lot of things that they feel are good for them and theirs, all at once. He's the greatest gift they didn't even know they wanted. But they've truly gotten the most out of him, and with 6 months to go. Or more.
I am not optimistic about the future.
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I appreciate what you say about wanting to hear both sides, I am the same way. I prefer solutions to ideology. One of the worst things trump has done is destroy what is left of intelligent conservatism. Progressive ideas on government efficiency and non-intrusiveness have been replaced with xenophobia, "culture war" nonsense and irrational fear mongering, as well as a crass and immature way of dealing with those who differ with you. What few responsible and intelligent conservatives are left are barely heard from anymore. As I have pointed out before, trump is not really a conservative, more like a fascist or banana republic dictator.
Edited by Easy Money - July 23 2020 at 09:00
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*frinspar*
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Posted: July 22 2020 at 23:22 |
40 years of a dedicated right-wing media campaign has poisoned us for generations. Making the people who vote for them fear things like the census only helps keep those citizens under their thumb. They're afraid of everything. Talk with any of them even for a short time and at the bottom of every single thought they have is deep-seated, irrational fear.
I believe in a healthy exchange of ideas, arguing and working towards compromise, and differing points of view. That keeps us all honest. But what we've allowed to slowly but thoroughly overtake us while we weren't looking hard enough is going to be tough to beat, if at all possible. Trump is the perfect distraction for a lot of people to use as cover who actually know how to get things done. They collectively realized they had a perfect opportunity to do a lot of things that they feel are good for them and theirs, all at once. He's the greatest gift they didn't even know they wanted. But they've truly gotten the most out of him, and with 6 months to go. Or more.
I am not optimistic about the future.
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 22 2020 at 20:10 |
*frinspar* wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
I voted in person because I don't want to hear any complaints about 'corrupt' mail in votes.
Now I must head back to Nextdoor where I battle with local trumpateers on a daily basis ... up, up and away! |
I can't go there anymore. I auto-delete almost all of the emails when they come in. It really is a hotbed of Trumpists and Qlowns. Signed up years back thinking it might be useful, but it's really the opposite of the idea of community.
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Yeah, it got pretty heated today. People get upset and paranoid about the census of all the stupid things. The census basically supplies statistics that are useful for businesses and individuals, but you would think by what some people say that the government is up to something sinister. The US is coming apart at the seams, four years of hollywood donald have definitely accelerated that.
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Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446
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*frinspar*
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Posted: July 22 2020 at 18:48 |
Easy Money wrote:
I voted in person because I don't want to hear any complaints about 'corrupt' mail in votes.
Now I must head back to Nextdoor where I battle with local trumpateers on a daily basis ... up, up and away! |
I can't go there anymore. I auto-delete almost all of the emails when they come in. It really is a hotbed of Trumpists and Qlowns. Signed up years back thinking it might be useful, but it's really the opposite of the idea of community.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: July 22 2020 at 17:12 |
Easy Money wrote:
I voted in person because I don't want to hear any complaints about 'corrupt' mail in votes. Now I must head back to Nextdoor where I battle with local trumpateers on a daily basis ... up, up and away! |
You are going to hear about it anyway.  
But I actually switched to a mail in ballot last year. And I find the experience much easier (although thankfully my polling place is not one to be swamped on election day, even for president).
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