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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44045 |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44045 |
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Yes, I have the Big Generator album as part of a 5-CD box set, but it still remains my least favourite Yes album, although I haven't heard the Open Your Eyes album yet, so that may all change.
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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You're right, Mortte. I was actually waiting a BG-thread. For me, a song like Shoot High Aim Low easily tops most of the songs on 90125, but it is the only (very) good song on Side A. On side B Final Eyes and I'm Running are quite pleasurable. All the other songs, I find them at best average, and I have a problem with the drumming (and the sound quality of it); it really doesn't get me. Made me think of a Duracell TV-ad where toy rabbits are drumming and the duracell ones last the longest - that plastic sound... 90125 is a much more consistent high quality album. But, as always, this is about personal appreciation: yours is as valid as mine!
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Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
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Now I have a suspicion that you Paul hasnīt even heard Big Generator, or if has then just one time and then agreed that common opinion itīs rubbish. Just because you, or no-one else havenīt put any comments to my opinion about BG or explained whatīs so bad in that album. But, I think itīs good idea not to make BG thread if itīs going to be "letīs hate this album collectively".
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17993 |
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I think it is a fantastic album with some really great songs. Chris Squire is huge on that album, I love it his bass lines just fill my room with nice pressure....All in great thanks to the mastering genius of Bob Ludwig, my copy is "RL Masterdisk" stamped in the deadwax.
Easily a 4/5 for me.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19048 |
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Kind of the same for me except I didn't see the video until a few years later I think. 90125 was the first album I bought by them although I didn't first see them until the Big Generator tour. It was a slow progression for me though but ultimately 90125 led me to more Yes which led me to more prog which eventually led me to this crazy website.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44045 |
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Yes, that 90125 Live video really takes me back to the glamorous 1980's New Romantic movement of flamboyant fashions, bright glossy lipstick and heavy mascara, and that was just the men!
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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It was the 9012 Live video that got me into Yes back in the mid-80s.. Squire with his weird basses and costume were intriguing, and that version of Starship Trooper knocked my socks off. Better than Genesis around this period tbh.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44045 |
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Yes - Live in Germany 1984 - 90125 Tour |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44045 |
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Yes, "Leave It" is a good song and the accompanying official video with its visual trickery may have been very clever back in 1983, but it looks dreadful viewed by today's standards. ![]() |
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Mirakaze ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Eclectic, JRF/Canterbury, Avant/Zeuhl Joined: December 17 2019 Location: (redacted) Status: Offline Points: 4253 |
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I like "Leave It" and "Our Song", and "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" has a place in my heart despite its cheesiness. There's also a fair number of moments on the album that I can't stand (TWO HEARTS ARE BETTER THAN OOOOONE) but personally I usually consider 90125 the final at-least-sort-of-good Yes album: even after the crappy 80s production went away it just feels to me like they never really found their spark again.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44045 |
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I was going to make Big Generator (1987) my next featured Yes album, seeing as it's the next album in chronological sequence, but after reading the comments on this thread, I'm intrigued now to hear the Heaven & Earth (2014) album for the first time, so I've decided to make the final Yes album my next featured album instead.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19048 |
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Well, depending on what your taste is maybe you should consider checking out some of them. If classic Yes is your thing and you don't typically like pop elements in prog then at least listen to the Keys to Ascension albums which feature live tracks as well as studio tracks that are quite reminiscent of 70's prog Yes.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44045 |
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I like 90125 more than the Drama and Tormato albums too, but I like The Ladder album best of all the post 1970's Yes albums.
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90125 has little to do with classic Yes (from The Yes Album to Going for the One). Nevertheless it is a good album, which I prefer over Tormato and Drama. I have never listened to any of their albums after this one.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19048 |
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It's a very good pop rock album (with some prog elements). Nothing more and nothing less.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44045 |
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I'll try and listen to the Heaven & Earth album for the first time with an open mind and open ears.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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I do find Heaven and Earth rather disappointing. Perhaps if it had Anderson's more beautiful and powerful vocals, as well as some better production and mixing (perhaps if Trevor Horn had been used again), I could have been more perceptive of the beautiful meditative nature you enjoy.
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I enjoy "Heaven and Earth", too! It is a beautiful album. If you are expecting songs like "Roundabout" or "Siberian Khatru", of course you are going to be disappointed.
But, I don't see any point in comparing it to "90125" (which, by the way, is one of my top 10 favorite albums of all time). Likewise, there is no point in comparing either of these to the earlier classic Yes sound of the 1970s. It was a different time, and some of the band members weren't the same. I consider "Heaven and Earth" to be more of a meditative album, which is what I would expect from a group of seasoned prog rockers. I mean, seriously. Are you the same person you were 40 years ago? "90125" was a reinvention of Yes that was trying to stay relevant amidst the wider music community but, at the same time, still managed to stay true to themselves with great prog rock. And, Trevor Rabin didn't try to mimic Steve Howe. I know that a lot of people disagree with this assessment. Good! Best to think independently. I do try to fair. |
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