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I prophesy disaster
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If you like your music to be a little bit strange, then I highly recommend, from 2019:
Lost Crowns - Every Night Something Happens Although I love the entire album, my favourite track is "Sound As Colour": Edited by I prophesy disaster - July 10 2020 at 19:50 |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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That's a brilliant album.
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Ian
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I prophesy disaster
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My favourite 21st century prog album is the 2009 release (as a free download), Maudlin Of The Well - Part The Second: Edited by I prophesy disaster - July 10 2020 at 20:53 |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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Awesoreno
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Birds & Buildings isn't THAT retro to my ears. At least, it doesn't sound like a rehash of the the incredibly influential bands that we usually get threads about every day (you know, those heavy hitters in symph and eclectic from that little decade called 68-78). To be fair, I've only heard their first record. I do like it though. Pretty avant honestly. Other groups that are somewhat similar and definitely "new" prog: -An Endless Sporadic -iNFiNiEN
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Awesoreno
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Though that's PLENTY modern for some people on this site hehehe. "I don't like all these new bands, like Dream Theater."
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Grumpyprogfan
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Grumpyprogfan
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Thank You Scientist is for me, one of the better modern prog bands. The brass and string arrangements keep it interesting.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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I like the music but the vocals are too irritating for me.
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Ian
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Sad but true.
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Ian
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Raff
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I also think they (Thank You Scientist) are a much better live band than a studio one. Their albums sound rather one-note to me, while their live shows are quite entertaining.
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King of Loss
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The new Pure Reason Revolution is absolutely brilliant. Any takers?
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FatherChristmas
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I think I've heard of them recently... I'm researching it currently.
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"Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp
"I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten |
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FatherChristmas
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I've come to the conclusion that "new prog" (or indeed "nu prog" Steve G ) is more of a wave of bands than a subgenre... it still seems very under promoted at PA. I'd only really heard of the newer bands Spock's Beard, the Mars Volta, Steven Wilson and Dream Theater before making this topic, and I'm not that ignorant. (Well, I don't know... I hadn't heard of Caravan until recently) .
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"Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp
"I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten |
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Psychedelic Paul
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At least you didn't make the mistake that I did when I first joined PA by calling modern prog "Neo-Prog"
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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1995, 2003, 1991, 1989, four these are only 'newer' in comparison to the 70's golden age. Of those artists most of the original members are probably in their 50's. Can I interest you in some PoiL, ni, Chromb, Zevious, Horse Lords, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, The Cellar & Point, Diablo Swing Orchestra, elephant9?
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Ian
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FatherChristmas
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That just made me think of an awful joke.
You can interest me, but you can't Special Interest me. That is the opposite of prog. |
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"Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp
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Logan
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It's called NuProg, New Prog, Post Prog, Alterna-Prog and Alternative Prog or Alt. Prog. I actually brought this up as a label to consider back in 2008 (and I wasn't the first), as well as Neo-Folk (not as its own category but as a section of Prog Folk). I was keen on adding subcategories if we could at one time, though I always preferred multi-genre album tagging, but our site architecture does not support it and such changes would mean rebuilding the site and pulling all this into into a new one would be a massive challenge.
My conclusion about New Prog being, along with others, that it wouldn't be very useful (at least not as its own category). We find various NuProg bands across various categories here. If we had multi genre tagging, then it could be a useful label for database classification. Indeed, I agree with you that it's more of a wave of band than a subgenre. I researched it a lot back then after I came across the term, and here is a link that I found useful, but is now very out of date. https://rateyourmusic.com/list/WiiAreRabbid/new_prog__progressive_rock_with_a_modern_twist/ I'll quote from that:
We've had a few discussions on this over the years (mostly before 2010). What I said in one as response was: "NuProg bands can be found in various categories here. I had brought up this topic before (for a Nu Prog/ Post Prog category), and am of the feeling that while NuProg would a useful tag for artists in PA, and a useful term for describing acts, it's rather too diverse to be warranted for placing Nu Prog bands in a single category. So better as a descriptor than as a functional and useful category. I did feel that it could be helpful with placement. Aside from the concern that Nu Prog bands are so diverse that it doesn't warrant its own category, there were also concerns that it would open the doors to bands that should not be considered truly Prog (at least by PA standards). The other concern expressed had to to do with PA's taking a back-seat to others "Prog definitions," as I understood it." There is also Nu Jazz, Nu Metal and there should be a Nu Neu. Edited by Logan - July 11 2020 at 09:39 |
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Tapfret
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There are plenty here who promote newer bands. Most of the team members exclusively evaluate and add new artists to the database. The right side of the front page showcases the 5 most recent current years' album additions. But if you only watch the polls and lists on the forum, you will primarily see the most popular top5-10 known artists. Its just how incumbency works. There are over 11,000 bands on the site. I don't know that anyone has the analyzed data, but I am fairly certain a large percentage, if not the majority of them were formed in the latter half of the prog epoch. You just gotta start digging. Here is a good place to start. The yearly collaborators album of the year lists are virtually nothing but modern prog. If that's not promotion, I'm doing a lot of work for nothing. Edited by Tapfret - July 11 2020 at 09:51 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Well then I can't imagine you liking the Mars Volta for that same reason.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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I'm up and down on Mars Volta vocals.
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Ian
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