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Topic: Modern/New Prog
Posted: July 10 2020 at 07:05

I've been wondering recently whether there has been a new wave of prog bands I've somehow missed out, and furthermore, whether any modern prog bands have actually broke the charts.

According to Wikipedia, there's a genre called "new prog", can anyone give me any information on this?

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 07:06

The Wikipedia link -

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 07:24

This would seem to be bands that formed after 2000 that don't just mimic former generations. We have plenty of those on the site but they are scattered across all the sub-genres:-

Checking the charts:-

Wobbler

All Traps On Earth

Nil

Birds & Buildings

Riverside

Kayo Dot

The Mars Volta

Haken

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 07:29

From my Avant perspective I'd throw out there:-

Far Corner

Zevious

Jean Louis

PoiL

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum

Vak

Sonar

Setna

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 08:37

For me personally modern prog is the one that is more influenced by indie/alternative rock/punk rock than by psychedelia/60s pop/70s prog - Oceansize, Pure Reason Revolution, Tool, The Mars Volta, Coheed and Cambria, Mew, Gazpacho, etc. Also love the bands who started as somewhat retro-prog but moved to create their own sound later on - Anekdoten, Porcupine Tree, h's Marillion

Check this video, some cool points there:

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

This would seem to be bands that formed after 2000 that don't just mimic former generations

Oddly enough, these bands are as retro-prog as retro could be:

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Wobbler
All Traps On Earth
Birds & Buildings

These though more like it:

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Riverside
Kayo Dot
The Mars Volta
Haken

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 08:56

For me, "new" progressive music includes post/alternative/progressive bands.

Here are some names:

-Gazpacho, Soup (post/alternative/progressive rock),

-Caligula's Horse, Karnivool, The Butterfly Effect (alternative/progressive metal/rock),

-Archive, Radiohead, Muse (alternative/progressive rock),

-The Pineapple Thief, Porcupine Tree, Riverside (alternative/progressive rock/metal (for PT and Riverside) ),

-Caspian, Sleepmakeswaves, Long Distance Calling, God Is An Astronaut, Leech, If These Trees Could Talk, ... (post-rock/metal).

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 11:14

Thanks, these posts are very helpful. Smile

Should I make a topic dedicated to the appreciation of new prog? It's obviously not a virtually unknown underground genre.

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 12:05

New Prog....?

...yes because we need another category of prog.

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 12:42

FatherChristmas wrote:

I've been wondering recently whether there has been a new wave of prog bands I've somehow missed out, ad furthermore, whether any modern prog bands have actually broke the charts.

According to Wikipedia, there's a genre called "new prog", can anyone give me any information on this?

I don't follow all the prog bands chart success but I do know that Steven Wilson, Porcupine Tree and the Mars Volta have all had albums in the top 100(top 50 in some cases). There's also Dream Theater of course and also bands like Muse and Radiohead if you want to count them(some do some don't). Also, back in 2002 Spock's Beard's "snow" made it to number 15 on the then relatively new internet albums chart(out of 30 listed). A more recent band who actually had an album crack the top 100 on the billboard charts is Thank You Scientist. Other than those I mentioned I'm not really aware of any unless we stretch the definition of prog out a bit.

There is a genre called new prog but I don't know much about it. I think it's just bands who add more modern elements to the music and don't sound like old prog. My guess would be probably bands like Gazpacho, Oceansize or the Pineapple Thief.

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 14:25

So many great prog bands have been formed in the last twenty years. Don't expect much discussion about them here. Only threads about 70's bands get more than 4 responses.

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 14:50

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So many great prog bands have been formed in the last twenty years. Don't expect much discussion about them here. Only threads about 70's bands get more than 4 responses.

I would say more like past 30-35 years. The most neglected prog in my opinion is from the 90's and even a little bit beyond that. The past ten years? It's not discussed as much as 70's prog but at least it has the advantage of being new or relatively new and so isn't as buried as 90's(or early 2000's) prog imo.

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 15:03

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So many great prog bands have been formed in the last twenty years. Don't expect much discussion about them here. Only threads about 70's bands get more than 4 responses.

What? You don't like seeing "Top 5 Yes Songs" "Selling England vs Close to the Edge" or "Is Pink Floyd Prog?" every week? LOL

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 15:13

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What? You don't like seeing "Top 5 Yes Songs" "Selling England vs Close to the Edge" or "Is Pink Floyd Prog?" every week? LOL

More like every day.

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 15:32

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I would say more like past 30-35 years. The most neglected prog in my opinion is from the 90's and even a little bit beyond that. The past ten years? It's not discussed as much as 70's prog but at least it has the advantage of being new or relatively new and so isn't as buried as 90's(or early 2000's) prog imo.

Lot's of great bands from the 90's. Who do you like? Mike Keneally, Discipline, and Echolyn get overlooked.

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 15:47

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Lot's of great bands from the 90's. Who do you like? Mike Keneally, Discipline, and Echolyn get overlooked.

On this site Echolyn are starting to get a bit overlooked maybe because they haven't put out an album in a while. Discipline? No, very well known on here. You could be right about MK except that he has the Zappa connection. Still, I haven't seen him mentioned on here much(or maybe not in a while also). He's pretty good live.

There were a lot of bands but some would be Salem Hill, Mastermind, Par Lindh Project, After Crying, Underground Railroad(early 2000's), Pye Fyte(one great album from 1998), Iluvatar and White Willow.

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 17:58

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Should I make a topic dedicated to the appreciation of new prog?

There were those back in the day (one started by yours truly

) but as well-spotted above, they weren't really as popular as "What's Your Favourite Genesis Album?"-type threads

Unless it's a Steven Wilson one of course!

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 18:03

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Echolyn

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Discipline

Love 'em both, especially Discipline. Modern-prog though? Nah, they're heavily inspired by Gentle Giant (Echolyn) and VDGG (Discipline), and of course also by Genesis and King Crimson. So yeah, modern-era prog bands but definitely retro-prog style-wise

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Posted: July 10 2020 at 18:19

Prog-jester wrote:

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Echolyn

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Discipline

I was responding to someone else. It's not necessarily my opinion that they are modern either. However, I don't hear much retro prog in echolyn at least not in a while for them.

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