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The Canterbury Scene on BBC Prog Rock Britannia [2008]
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My favorite tracks to play to on my organ are Egg songs (Newport Hospital, Egg Symphony etc). Love Canterbury scene.
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Where But For Caravan Would I: an Affectionate Tribute to Caravan (Documentary) [2000]
 
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^ Excellent music, thanks for sharing! 
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

National Health's debut album is the one album I hold more dearly than any other on this earth, it's such an amazing journey. As a musician, this song written by keyboard wizard Alan Gowen gave me huge anxiety for a long time because it felt so far ahead of what I was able to accomplish compositionally, but it did help me to broaden my horizons and refine my own writings:
Great album and great song. Health/Hatfield are some of my favorite recordings. They are not dated and still sound fresh. Timeless.  I would be interested to hear your music. Not many can compose music like Alan, Phil, Dave, Pip, Richard, and John did.



Ha, well I wouldn't dare put myself quite on their level LOL and this may be deviating a bit from the thread topic but I think these are two of my stronger and more concise songs (both created using FL Studio, although I may in the future seek to have them recorded by an actual band):
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

National Health's debut album is the one album I hold more dearly than any other on this earth, it's such an amazing journey. As a musician, this song written by keyboard wizard Alan Gowen gave me huge anxiety for a long time because it felt so far ahead of what I was able to accomplish compositionally, but it did help me to broaden my horizons and refine my own writings:
Great album and great song. Health/Hatfield are some of my favorite recordings. They are not dated and still sound fresh. Timeless.  I would be interested to hear your music. Not many can compose music like Alan, Phil, Dave, Pip, Richard, and John did.
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Really like all of the 'Canterbury school' bands....all the ones mentioned already ...some great tracks mentioned....I like Caravan and Hatfield the best  and this track has always been a favorite...
9 feet underground............



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I'm not sure if this is considered to be a product of the Canterbury Scene, but it does feature a lot of people who were involved with it. Absolute top-notch jazz rock, in any case.
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Well, didn´t read all from that Canterbury sites, but at least Robert Wyatt seems to think same way as I:

Robert Wyatt

"I couldn't tell you much about that... I don't remember any particular movement happening there. I was at school there, I got married there and I lived there for a while. The school I went to had nothing special, there wasn't any particular interest for art, and I grew bored because I wasn't really good at school... If there ever was a Canterbury scene, it was when the Wilde Flowers became Caravan : they were Canterbury people...".

"I didn't even know it meant me until interviewers started asking me about it. As I say, because I'd bussed in from outside to go to school there I didn't really consider myself a Canterbury person. I think it really means people like Hugh Hopper and Richard Sinclair, who are genuinely based in that area. I met them there and I'm eternally grateful that I met someone like Hugh who provided something I don't think anyone else could have provided. My mind doesn't dwell on it as a place though, if I recall a former fantasy world upon which I draw, it's Harlem in the Forties and not Canterbury in the Fifties...".
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Well, to me it was also in the middle of 2010 when I read Matti Pajuniemi´s book of prog 1967-79, when I heard first time there exists Canterbury scene in prog. Probably that scene had made later, bands in sixties/seventies in the UK just played music they enjoyed, at least those bands of Canterbury were called just prog then.
 
I even found a Canterbury Scene band from France - Lard Free - who've never been anywhere near Canterbury as far as I know. Smile 
Well, as far as I understand it was first meaning those bands in the seventies that have at least some connection to Canterbury. Nowdays it means more a certain prog style, whatever it is, because I don´t think for example Egg and Caravan have really much in common.
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The No. 1 Website for the original Canterbury Scene: http://www.calyx-canterbury.fr/
There is Canterbury inspired Music all over the world of Course (Japan:)
 
 


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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Well, to me it was also in the middle of 2010 when I read Matti Pajuniemi´s book of prog 1967-79, when I heard first time there exists Canterbury scene in prog. Probably that scene had made later, bands in sixties/seventies in the UK just played music they enjoyed, at least those bands of Canterbury were called just prog then.
 
I even found a Canterbury Scene band from France - Lard Free - who've never been anywhere near Canterbury as far as I know. Smile 
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Well, to me it was also in the middle of 2010 when I read Matti Pajuniemi´s book of prog 1967-79, when I heard first time there exists Canterbury scene in prog. Probably that scene had made later, bands in sixties/seventies in the UK just played music they enjoyed, at least those bands of Canterbury were called just prog then.
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Thanks for all of the great posts everyone. Thumbs Up Maybe it's time I gave Soft Machine another listen, because they're a bit of an acquired taste and I wasn't too keen on them when I heard them for the first time many years ago. I've just seen a 5-CD box set of Soft Machine in my local record shop and it might be worth buying if I can really get into their music. Funnily enough, I'd never heard of the Canterbury Scene before I joined ProgArchives, even though I've been buying and listening to Caravan's albums for the last ten years.

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Hi,

It's kind of strange to think that one area is better than the other ... they are all different, and just about every country has its own "Canterbury" (just look at the Scotland/Wales areas!) ... and they are all a bit different. The Spanish have it (you can look at Flamenco, or the Gypsy stuff, or others), the French have it, and so do many other Europeans!

I think that CANTERBURY as we know it, was about folks that had some education, and many of them became music masters and instructors, whereas in other areas this did not happen, and for that the development of the music took shape and a place as "Canterbury", as if it were a style, but I'm not sure it is just a "style" as much as it is something that borrows from jazz, folk, rock and a lot of other musics. The early days of "Canterbury" is full of artists, writers, musicians and many others ... but we do not seem to think that those things matter ... they DO!

I've always joked that for Soft Machine, for example, what had started as "improvisation" in the early days in the words of Robert Wyatt, actually became "compositions", not improvisations ... since the moments and the changes and a lot of the parts of the music are "pre-defined" and sometimes you can hear the whistle say ... FOUL ... here it is ... that new theme! I really think that Robert's book title is a take on this ... INTENTIONALLY, because it would mean the music was not different each and every time! Not improvised as we think or imagine at all!


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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

I listened to national health today on the way home from a day of skiing with a friend today. I really only have a surface level knowledge of this sub genre currently but I’m hoping to expand over the coming months
One of my all time favorite bands. Great players and songs. Hope you enjoy them.


Absolutely love them, their music is just so damn cool
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