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Originally posted by Magmatt Magmatt wrote:

+ for Jon Camp
all the Tull bassists who toiled in anonimity.


Nice!  

 I saw Tull twice (TAAB and Minstrel tours), and Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond was a beast!  Amazing considering he was taught the instrument by Anderson & really wasn't all that into the rock-music scene. 

Glenn Cornick opened for Tull on the TAAB tour, he was another under appreciated master!  His work in "Paris" was excellent!
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

In no particular order:
Greg Lake (ELP, King Crimson)
Colin Hodgkinson (Back Door)
Vincent Crane (Atomic Rooster) who played the bass lines on Hammond organ pedals
Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath)
Lee Jackson (the Nice, Jackson Heights)

 

Yep Lee Jackson , completely forgot about him . Really great bassist and not mentioned nearly enough.

Didn't know that about Vince Crane.

Back Door - Mid seventies Jazz Rock band?  I seem to remember that Carl Palmer had some involvement with this band and I'm not sure but I think some of the band may have featured on the track Bullfrog from ELP's Works Vol 2 album.


The first two Back Door albums are essential British fusion in my book and yes, Ron Aspery (sax) and Colin Hodgkinson (bass) both play on the stellar Bullfrog track from Works Volume 2 (I've always wondered who contributed the keys/synths as they certainly don't sound anything like Keith) Carl Palmer produced Back Door's 4th album from 1976 (Activate) but it's erm... a bit sh*t.
 

I never really got much past Coloseum II as far as the whole jazz rock fusion thing goes but anyway just ordered the first three albums as part of a double CD package. Thanks for the info!
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I'm going to add one more which should have been in my original five, Hadrian Feraud.  I first saw him in John McLaughlin's 4th Dimension and thought John had found another superstar musician.  Then as quick as that Feraud disappeared.  Appearing sporadically here and there.  I have no explanation.  Check out the video.
 
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+ for Jon Camp
all the Tull bassists who toiled in anonimity.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Greg Lake is very much underrated (ELP gets trashed on PA for some reason).  

Ray Bennett of Flash, Gary Strater of Starcastle and Jon Camp of Renaissance were masters of the Rickenbacker.  

Mike Howlett of Gong always played some great licks. 

The late, great Lothar Meid of Amon Duul II is a longtime favorite. 
Excellent list. All great and underrated for sure.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

In no particular order:
Greg Lake (ELP, King Crimson)
Colin Hodgkinson (Back Door)
Vincent Crane (Atomic Rooster) who played the bass lines on Hammond organ pedals
Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath)
Lee Jackson (the Nice, Jackson Heights)


I didn't consider Geezer because I was trying to stay within core prog.  But across all genres, he may be the single most underrated bassist ever. 

I would also add John Paul Jones.  He's fairly well known, but rarely gets the credit he deserves. Plant, Page, and Bonham get all the ink, but I daresay JPJ is the best at his position of all of them and the group would never have been what they were without him. 
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

In no particular order:
Greg Lake (ELP, King Crimson)
Colin Hodgkinson (Back Door)
Vincent Crane (Atomic Rooster) who played the bass lines on Hammond organ pedals
Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath)
Lee Jackson (the Nice, Jackson Heights)


as to Colin Hodgkinson:


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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1. Ray Shulman
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Nick Beggs

Great call! Too shy shy... fantastic bass line in that song!

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Percy Jones - totally agree
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Gary Willis (tribal tech)
Nick Beggs
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Randy George (Neal Morse Band)
Martin Turner (Wishbone Ash)
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Percy Jones hands-down
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Greg Lake is very much underrated (ELP gets trashed on PA for some reason).
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I think ELP gets plenty of props. But when I trash them, the reason is usually that their music can be overblown. I mean, who ever heard of prog rock being pretentious?
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

In no particular order:
Greg Lake (ELP, King Crimson)
Colin Hodgkinson (Back Door)
Vincent Crane (Atomic Rooster) who played the bass lines on Hammond organ pedals
Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath)
Lee Jackson (the Nice, Jackson Heights)

 

Yep Lee Jackson , completely forgot about him . Really great bassist and not mentioned nearly enough.

Didn't know that about Vince Crane.

Back Door - Mid seventies Jazz Rock band?  I seem to remember that Carl Palmer had some involvement with this band and I'm not sure but I think some of the band may have featured on the track Bullfrog from ELP's Works Vol 2 album.


The first two Back Door albums are essential British fusion in my book and yes, Ron Aspery (sax) and Colin Hodgkinson (bass) both play on the stellar Bullfrog track from Works Volume 2 (I've always wondered who contributed the keys/synths as they certainly don't sound anything like Keith) Carl Palmer produced Back Door's 4th album from 1976 (Activate) but it's erm... a bit sh*t.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

In no particular order:
Greg Lake (ELP, King Crimson)
Colin Hodgkinson (Back Door)
Vincent Crane (Atomic Rooster) who played the bass lines on Hammond organ pedals
Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath)
Lee Jackson (the Nice, Jackson Heights)

 

Yep Lee Jackson , completely forgot about him . Really great bassist and not mentioned nearly enough.

Didn't know that about Vince Crane.

Back Door - Mid seventies Jazz Rock band?  I seem to remember that Carl Palmer had some involvement with this band and I'm not sure but I think some of the band may have featured on the track Bullfrog from ELP's Works Vol 2 album.
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In no particular order:
Greg Lake (ELP, King Crimson)
Colin Hodgkinson (Back Door)
Vincent Crane (Atomic Rooster) who played the bass lines on Hammond organ pedals
Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath)
Lee Jackson (the Nice, Jackson Heights)
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1. Klaus Peter-Matziol (Eloy)
2. John Jowitt (Arena, IQ)
3. Nick Beggs (Steve Hackett , Steven Wilson , The Mute Gods)
4. Colin Edwin
5. Tim Esau (IQ)
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Greg Lake is very much underrated (ELP gets trashed on PA for some reason).  

Ray Bennett of Flash, Gary Strater of Starcastle and Jon Camp of Renaissance were masters of the Rickenbacker.  

Mike Howlett of Gong always played some great licks. 

The late, great Lothar Meid of Amon Duul II is a longtime favorite. 
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:


"Yeah, but you've got one I'm not really familiar with. So" I've got some new lis'nin' to do.  Thanks."



May I suggest Bryan's album "Thanks in Advance". Or The Aristocrats " Culture Clash".




Good stuff there.  Thanks for the recommendations.  I see Bryan also has some instructional videos.
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