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Re The Prof's previous post: I learned a lot from the last two and a half years too. I didn't vote for or against either major candidate in 2016, and instead I voted 3rd party.
After seeing trump in action and hearing the things he says and 'tweets' (cold shudder), my mind has changed completely and in 2020 I will probably vote for the person who can most likely send him back to his world of casinos, beauty contests and brain dead reality TV shows.
Edited by Easy Money - May 30 2019 at 21:17
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 07:23
Easy Money wrote:
Re The Prof's previous post: I learned a lot from the last two and a half years too. I didn't vote for or against either major candidate in 2016, and instead I voted 3rd party.
After seeing trump in action and hearing the things he says and 'tweets' (cold shudder), my mind has changed completely and in 2020 I will probably vote for the person who can most likely send him back to his world of casinos, beauty contests and brain dead reality TV shows.
That's he problem with you people. You vote for he face, not for the deeds. That's how you probably voted for Obama. And that's why you have Trump.
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 07:36
^ I don't care about his face, I only care about what he says and what he does, those are the things that reveal character or lack of it. Also, who is this "you people" you refer to? I'm an individual and I think for myself.
Edited by Easy Money - May 31 2019 at 12:38
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 13:16
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^ I don't recall mentioning "he(sic) face". You will have to show me my quote along those lines because it never happened. What do I care about his face? I don't..
You're at it again spin master. Here's your original post. You know exactly what I mean but you choose your favorite path of spin.
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 13:20
IVNORD wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
Re The Prof's previous post: I learned a lot from the last two and a half years too. I didn't vote for or against either major candidate in 2016, and instead I voted 3rd party.
After seeing trump in action and hearing the things he says and 'tweets' (cold shudder), my mind has changed completely and in 2020 I will probably vote for the person who can most likely send him back to his world of casinos, beauty contests and brain dead reality TV shows.
That's he problem with you people. You vote for he face, not for the deeds. That's how you probably voted for Obama. And that's why you have Trump.
Bingo! Leftists' cheer 100% higher Obamacare med bills, They praise Obama for bombing 7 countries continuously, and they love when Obama picks their pockets. Leftism is a religion and Obama is their messiah. "I'm not worthy, take away my freedoms Obama!" Hillary is their Mother Mary.
Me? I didn't vote for Trump, but I will vote for him in 2020. Why? Because he lowered my taxes by a few thousand a year. He took away the Obamacare penalty. That saved me another 2000 dollars. Plus Trump hasn't started a War...yet. The economy is booming. Black and Hispanic unemployment are at record LOWS. There are more job openings than Unemployed.
But no, no, NO! The Leftist's screams, " Trump's tweets hurt my feelings. I'm offended! Orange Man Bad." The Leftist claim Trump is a dictator. What kind of Dictator? The kind of dictator that promotes free speech and doesn't punish Leftists for Threatening Trump's life. The kind of Dictator that "fights for the 2nd amendment rights" so the public can keep their guns and defend themselves. The kind of dictator that doesn't start wars! Trump needs to go to Dictator College because he's got the dictator thing ass-backwards.
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 13:51
^ "Leftists" aren't the only people who see through trumps con game, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, William Weld, Gary Johnson and Mitt Romney are real conservatives, not a phony conservative like commander bone spurs, and they have all quite often been outspoken against him.
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 14:42
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IVNORD wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
Re The Prof's previous post: I learned a lot from the last two and a half years too. I didn't vote for or against either major candidate in 2016, and instead I voted 3rd party.
After seeing trump in action and hearing the things he says and 'tweets' (cold shudder), my mind has changed completely and in 2020 I will probably vote for the person who can most likely send him back to his world of casinos, beauty contests and brain dead reality TV shows.
That's he problem with you people. You vote for he face, not for the deeds. That's how you probably voted for Obama. And that's why you have Trump.
Bingo! Leftists' cheer 100% higher Obamacare med bills, They praise Obama for bombing 7 countries continuously, and they love when Obama picks their pockets. Leftism is a religion and Obama is their messiah. "I'm not worthy, take away my freedoms Obama!" Hillary is their Mother Mary.
Me? I didn't vote for Trump, but I will vote for him in 2020. Why? Because he lowered my taxes by a few thousand a year. He took away the Obamacare penalty. That saved me another 2000 dollars. Plus Trump hasn't started a War...yet. The economy is booming. Black and Hispanic unemployment are at record LOWS. There are more job openings than Unemployed.
But no, no, NO! The Leftist's screams, " Trump's tweets hurt my feelings. I'm offended! Orange Man Bad." The Leftist claim Trump is a dictator. What kind of Dictator? The kind of dictator that promotes free speech and doesn't punish Leftists for Threatening Trump's life. The kind of Dictator that "fights for the 2nd amendment rights" so the public can keep their guns and defend themselves. The kind of dictator that doesn't start wars! Trump needs to go to Dictator College because he's got the dictator thing ass-backwards.
I must remind you that Obamacare was created by conservatives, implemented by Romney in my home state of Massachusetts and passed through by a Rockefeller Republican-like President. How is Obama even remotely resembling a Leftist?
Most of Trump's economic growth is based on debt and on a natural economic cycle of boom and bust. Most of the growth right now is due to the economy recovering from the last bust... He might have blown up the bubble further and the coming recession will be really bad.... Most of the growth in jobs are also not in jobs that you would call "good jobs"....
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 15:46
King of Loss wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
IVNORD wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
Re The Prof's previous post: I learned a lot from the last two and a half years too. I didn't vote for or against either major candidate in 2016, and instead I voted 3rd party.
After seeing trump in action and hearing the things he says and 'tweets' (cold shudder), my mind has changed completely and in 2020 I will probably vote for the person who can most likely send him back to his world of casinos, beauty contests and brain dead reality TV shows.
That's he problem with you people. You vote for he face, not for the deeds. That's how you probably voted for Obama. And that's why you have Trump.
Bingo! Leftists' cheer 100% higher Obamacare med bills, They praise Obama for bombing 7 countries continuously, and they love when Obama picks their pockets. Leftism is a religion and Obama is their messiah. "I'm not worthy, take away my freedoms Obama!" Hillary is their Mother Mary.
Me? I didn't vote for Trump, but I will vote for him in 2020. Why? Because he lowered my taxes by a few thousand a year. He took away the Obamacare penalty. That saved me another 2000 dollars. Plus Trump hasn't started a War...yet. The economy is booming. Black and Hispanic unemployment are at record LOWS. There are more job openings than Unemployed.
But no, no, NO! The Leftist's screams, " Trump's tweets hurt my feelings. I'm offended! Orange Man Bad." The Leftist claim Trump is a dictator. What kind of Dictator? The kind of dictator that promotes free speech and doesn't punish Leftists for Threatening Trump's life. The kind of Dictator that "fights for the 2nd amendment rights" so the public can keep their guns and defend themselves. The kind of dictator that doesn't start wars! Trump needs to go to Dictator College because he's got the dictator thing ass-backwards.
I must remind you that Obamacare was created by conservatives, implemented by Romney in my home state of Massachusetts and passed through by a Rockefeller Republican-like President. How is Obama even remotely resembling a Leftist?
Most of Trump's economic growth is based on debt and on a natural economic cycle of boom and bust. Most of the growth right now is due to the economy recovering from the last bust... He might have blown up the bubble further and the coming recession will be really bad.... Most of the growth in jobs are also not in jobs that you would call "good jobs"....
Mr. Loser, Mitt Romey isn't conservative. I could label myself - a world class soccer player. Doesn't make me one. Jeff Flake isn't a conservative either. John McCain and the Bushes weren't conservative. Rand Paul, Trump, Jim Jordan, and Devin Nunes are Conservatives. Maybe 15 of the Republican senators are True Conservatives. I'm not a Republican. I'm apolitical. Hey, I'd vote for Tulsi Gabbart if she was a presidential Nominee. I'm not tribal. Unlike you, Mr. Loss, I didn't fall for the Republicans Vs Democrat scam/lie, "That they're different". Bush and Obama are different sides of the same counterfeit global coin.
If you can't fathom why Obama is a "leftist" then you haven't studied up on Leftism, or you suffer from cognitive dissonance.
Economy? I've professionally traded the Stock Market for 20 years. I've made multiple market predictions on this very thread. Every prediction I made came true. Check it out, Mr. Loss. Your democrat, kindergarten, economic explanation isn't even your viewpoint. You're regurgitating your CNN priest's last sermon. Maybe you should research stuff before you repeat it verbatim?
For example: The Stock Market looks 6-12 months into the future. It's not retroactive. Because everybody thought Hillary would win, the stock market tanked into the 2016 election and then IMMIDIATLEY rallied like rocket, once Trump won. Did you know that? Did you know that, Obama's rate of National Dept was almost twice what Trump's rate of national dept is....After the same amount of time in office. Go look it up.
Here, let me give you a helping hand, Mr. Loss. Research this- https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 15:52
^ I'd be curious to see what you think makes trump more a conservative than Jeff Flake.
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 16:29
omphaloskepsis wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
IVNORD wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
Re The Prof's previous post: I learned a lot from the last two and a half years too. I didn't vote for or against either major candidate in 2016, and instead I voted 3rd party.
After seeing trump in action and hearing the things he says and 'tweets' (cold shudder), my mind has changed completely and in 2020 I will probably vote for the person who can most likely send him back to his world of casinos, beauty contests and brain dead reality TV shows.
That's he problem with you people. You vote for he face, not for the deeds. That's how you probably voted for Obama. And that's why you have Trump.
Bingo! Leftists' cheer 100% higher Obamacare med bills, They praise Obama for bombing 7 countries continuously, and they love when Obama picks their pockets. Leftism is a religion and Obama is their messiah. "I'm not worthy, take away my freedoms Obama!" Hillary is their Mother Mary.
Me? I didn't vote for Trump, but I will vote for him in 2020. Why? Because he lowered my taxes by a few thousand a year. He took away the Obamacare penalty. That saved me another 2000 dollars. Plus Trump hasn't started a War...yet. The economy is booming. Black and Hispanic unemployment are at record LOWS. There are more job openings than Unemployed.
But no, no, NO! The Leftist's screams, " Trump's tweets hurt my feelings. I'm offended! Orange Man Bad." The Leftist claim Trump is a dictator. What kind of Dictator? The kind of dictator that promotes free speech and doesn't punish Leftists for Threatening Trump's life. The kind of Dictator that "fights for the 2nd amendment rights" so the public can keep their guns and defend themselves. The kind of dictator that doesn't start wars! Trump needs to go to Dictator College because he's got the dictator thing ass-backwards.
I must remind you that Obamacare was created by conservatives, implemented by Romney in my home state of Massachusetts and passed through by a Rockefeller Republican-like President. How is Obama even remotely resembling a Leftist?
Most of Trump's economic growth is based on debt and on a natural economic cycle of boom and bust. Most of the growth right now is due to the economy recovering from the last bust... He might have blown up the bubble further and the coming recession will be really bad.... Most of the growth in jobs are also not in jobs that you would call "good jobs"....
Mr. Loser, Mitt Romey isn't conservative. I could label myself - a world class soccer player. Doesn't make me one. Jeff Flake isn't a conservative either. John McCain and the Bushes weren't conservative. Rand Paul, Trump, Jim Jordan, and Devin Nunes are Conservatives. Maybe 15 of the Republican senators are True Conservatives. I'm not a Republican. I'm apolitical. Hey, I'd vote for Tulsi Gabbart if she was a presidential Nominee. I'm not tribal. Unlike you, Mr. Loss, I didn't fall for the Republicans Vs Democrat scam/lie, "That they're different". Bush and Obama are different sides of the same counterfeit global coin.
If you can't fathom why Obama is a "leftist" then you haven't studied up on Leftism, or you suffer from cognitive dissonance.
Economy? I've professionally traded the Stock Market for 20 years. I've made multiple market predictions on this very thread. Every prediction I made came true. Check it out, Mr. Loss. Your democrat, kindergarten, economic explanation isn't even your viewpoint. You're regurgitating your CNN priest's last sermon. Maybe you should research stuff before you repeat it verbatim?
For example: The Stock Market looks 6-12 months into the future. It's not retroactive. Because everybody thought Hillary would win, the stock market tanked into the 2016 election and then IMMIDIATLEY rallied like rocket, once Trump won. Did you know that? Did you know that, Obama's rate of National Dept was almost twice what Trump's rate of national dept is....After the same amount of time in office. Go look it up.
Here, let me give you a helping hand, Mr. Loss. Research this- https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
I am a young economist, but I am going to a PHD program very soon. I have some friends who are in tenure track positions at several top institutions around this country and they'll agree with every single word I just typed, so don't accuse me of being a kindergartener! I am also not a Democrat at all, I'm a registered member of the Green Party as there's no social-democratic party in this country.
If you think Romney isn't a conservative, then you're definitely one of those wingnut whackjobs that thinks Susan Collins is a RINO. They're all conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to look at their political stances from a more international perspective, then they don't even fit into the parties of the right in those countries. They most likely won't even be elected due to the extreme nature of their views.
Stock market =/= The real economy. Ask your averageperson how the economy is doing and they will have a very different perspective to that of yours or people living in very nice neighborhoods do.
I don't need your lecture on macroeconomics as I am working with a macroeconomist on research right now.
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 16:44
Economy? I've professionally traded the Stock Market for 20 years. I've made multiple market predictions on this very thread. Every prediction I made came true. Check it out, Mr. Loss. Your democrat, kindergarten, economic explanation isn't even your viewpoint. You're regurgitating your CNN priest's last sermon. Maybe you should research stuff before you repeat it verbatim?
For example: The Stock Market looks 6-12 months into the future. It's not retroactive. Because everybody thought Hillary would win, the stock market tanked into the 2016 election and then IMMIDIATLEY rallied like rocket, once Trump won. Did you know that? Did you know that, Obama's rate of National Dept was almost twice what Trump's rate of national dept is....After the same amount of time in office. Go look it up.
Here, let me give you a helping hand, Mr. Loss. Research this- https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
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I am a young economist, but I am going to a PHD program very soon. I have some friends who are in tenure track positions at several top institutions around this country and they'll agree with every single word I just typed, so don't accuse me of being a kindergartener! I am also not a Democrat at all, I'm a registered member of the Green Party as there's no social-democratic party in this country.
If you think Romney isn't a conservative, then you're definitely one of those wingnut whackjobs that thinks Susan Collins is a RINO. They're all conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to look at their political stances from a more international perspective, then they don't even fit into the parties of the right in those countries. They most likely won't even be elected due to the extreme nature of their views.
Stock market =/= The real economy. Ask your averageperson how the economy is doing and they will have a very different perspective to that of yours or people living in very nice neighborhoods do.
I don't need your lecture on macroeconomics as I am working with a macroeconomist on research right now.
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Good! Let's make some predictions Mr. Macroeconomics. Class is easy. The real world is hard. What to play a game? Want to trade the stock market against me, with monopoly money for everyone on Prog Archives to see? How about the S&P or NDX? Or, perhaps you've studied Small Caps?
We'll create a new thread. We'll each start with $100,000 monopoly dollars. We announce each trade. Other's can play too. I predict I'll kick your macroeconomic a$$ets! Show us what you learned in class Mr. Loss.
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Posted: May 31 2019 at 17:48
omphaloskepsis wrote:
Economy? I've professionally traded the Stock Market for 20 years. I've made multiple market predictions on this very thread. Every prediction I made came true. Check it out, Mr. Loss. Your democrat, kindergarten, economic explanation isn't even your viewpoint. You're regurgitating your CNN priest's last sermon. Maybe you should research stuff before you repeat it verbatim?
For example: The Stock Market looks 6-12 months into the future. It's not retroactive. Because everybody thought Hillary would win, the stock market tanked into the 2016 election and then IMMIDIATLEY rallied like rocket, once Trump won. Did you know that? Did you know that, Obama's rate of National Dept was almost twice what Trump's rate of national dept is....After the same amount of time in office. Go look it up.
Here, let me give you a helping hand, Mr. Loss. Research this- https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
I am a young economist, but I am going to a PHD program very soon. I have some friends who are in tenure track positions at several top institutions around this country and they'll agree with every single word I just typed, so don't accuse me of being a kindergartener! I am also not a Democrat at all, I'm a registered member of the Green Party as there's no social-democratic party in this country.
If you think Romney isn't a conservative, then you're definitely one of those wingnut whackjobs that thinks Susan Collins is a RINO. They're all conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to look at their political stances from a more international perspective, then they don't even fit into the parties of the right in those countries. They most likely won't even be elected due to the extreme nature of their views.
Stock market =/= The real economy. Ask your averageperson how the economy is doing and they will have a very different perspective to that of yours or people living in very nice neighborhoods do.
I don't need your lecture on macroeconomics as I am working with a macroeconomist on research right now.
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Good! Let's make some predictions Mr. Macroeconomics. Class is easy. The real world is hard. What to play a game? Want to trade the stock market against me, with monopoly money for everyone on Prog Archives to see? How about the S&P or NDX? Or, perhaps you've studied Small Caps?
We'll create a new thread. We'll each start with $100,000 monopoly dollars. We announce each trade. Other's can play too. I predict I'll kick your macroeconomic a$$ets! Show us what you learned in class Mr. Loss.
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I think you're confusing business and finance with economics. Very different subjects....
Well, I'll just start with one topic, even though there are several I can bring up. And also let me add the disclaimer that I am no political science major. I don't pretend to know more than others about politics, and I'm starting to get a bit "long in the tooth" - I'm in my 50's and my own life's path has been affected in different ways by different administrations and policies. Everyone is different in that regard, and I respect those differences.
I feel strongly about our national sovereignty, and feel that respecting the national sovereignty of other nations is important. I have a general disdain for globalist, internationalist endeavors and organizations. Trump seems to be all about "America First," and I agree with that strategy. He's advocated that other nations should also look out for their own best interests, and has stated that he honors that.
In his speech to the UN (which I actually think was an excellent speech, despite the press highlighting the laughter at his one sentence "In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country." - and virtually ignoring the rest of his speech, or annotating it, or bloviating about what it might mean from their perspective), he said the following, all of which I agree with:
"...America will always choose independence and cooperation over global governance, control, and domination.I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return."
I respect that, and agree with it.
"The ongoing tragedy in Syria is heartbreaking. Our shared goals must be the de-escalation of military conflict, along with a political solution that honors the will of the Syrian people. In this vein, we urge the United Nations-led peace process be reinvigorated. But, rest assured, the United States will respond if chemical weapons are deployed by the Assad regime."
This one is a mixed bag. I agree that a political solution in Syria should "honor the will" of the Syrian people.
That said, I disagree about what he said regarding "...rest assured, the United States will respond..." As tragic as that scenario may be, I don't agree that we should step in, even if Assad did that. For that matter, I have read conflicting reports about the entire Syrian civil war; I completely disagreed with Obama's funding of the Muslim rebels in Syria. The rebels were responsible for murdering and raping Syrian Christians, and bombing (and reports of gassing) Christian churches and monasteries. I find that reprehensible, and the Syrian Christians were very vocal about their horror that this was happening. They were given protection in their worship by Assad. At any rate, I've disagreed with previous administrations' actions, particularly Bush and Obama. I never felt like we should be in Iraq, or Afghanistan, or Libya, or Syria. Let these nations be. I disagreed with Trump's administration shelling Syria a while back too.
But I don't want to get off-track; I mentioned all that only because it is a reflection of this issue of respecting the national sovereignty of others.
From the same speech, Trump said this regarding the WTO:
"Many nations in this hall will agree that the world trading system is in dire need of change. For example, countries were admitted to the World Trade Organization that violate every single principle on which the organization is based. While the United States and many other nations play by the rules, these countries use government-run industrial planning and state-owned enterprises to rig the system in their favor. They engage in relentless product dumping, forced technology transfer, and the theft of intellectual property."
I think Trump is making a truthful statement here.
"As my administration has demonstrated, America will always act in our national interest."
Good. We should. That makes perfect sense to me.
"I spoke before this body last year and warned that the U.N. Human Rights Council had become a grave embarrassment to this institution, shielding egregious human rights abusers while bashing America and its many friends. Our Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, laid out a clear agenda for reform, but despite reported and repeated warnings, no action at all was taken. So the United States took the only responsible course: We withdrew from the Human Rights Council, and we will not return until real reform is enacted. For similar reasons, the United States will provide no support in recognition to the International Criminal Court. As far as America is concerned, the ICC has no jurisdiction, no legitimacy, and no authority. The ICC claims near-universal jurisdiction over the citizens of every country, violating all principles of justice, fairness, and due process. We will never surrender America’s sovereignty to an unelected, unaccountable, global bureaucracy. America is governed by Americans. We reject the ideology of globalism, and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism."
That also makes perfect sense to me.
"We recognize the right of every nation in this room to set its own immigration policy in accordance with its national interests, just as we ask other countries to respect our own right to do the same — which we are doing. That is one reason the United States will not participate in the new Global Compact on Migration. Migration should not be governed by an international body unaccountable to our own citizens."
Again, I agree with this perspective.
I could go on, but I'm sure you get the point; I agree with Trump on his perspective on national sovereignty.
Now, others here may disagree, and that's fine; but I'll be honest: it's going to take a mighty fine argument for me to change my mind about America having a prerogative to not only look out for its own interests, but to put those interests first, above the interests of other nations or globalist/international organizations or programs.
Well, let me qualify that. I think Trump is an egotistical buffoon, and a bit of a clown, and I did not vote for him. In 2016 I thought he was full of hot air and essentially just telling people what they wanted to hear.
After 2+ years into it, I've actually decided to vote for him in 2020.
I agree with several of his policy decisions, and I [mostly] like his trajectory for the country.
I'm happy to explain why, but only if it is amicable. I know a lot of people dislike (hate, even) him, and that's fine. I'm not out to change anyone's mind about him, and when political discussions get heated, I get turned off.
But yeah, unless he goes to prison anytime soon, I'll be voting for him in 2020.
Edited to add: I still think he's a clown, but he doesn't bother me [like he bothers many]. There are things about him I don't like, for sure. But he's gotten enough right (in my opinion) that I'll vote for his re-election
I admire your bravery.
So basically if a clown ~ like, literally a clown in full makeup, red nose, orange hair... oh wait, sorry ~ if an actual clown were President and made the same policy decisions Trump has made, you'd be voting for him? Fascinating. I get it.
No, you're extrapolating something out of my written words that I didn't intend. When I say I think Trump is a "clown," I mean that in the sense that I say the same thing to my best friend when he acts silly or foolish in public - "Stop being such a clown." That kind of thing.
Look, I agree that poise isn't Trump's strong suit. That's what I mean. He can act and speak rudely. He can be awfully petty. He can be a terrible braggart. All of that stuff - is why I call him a clown.
But his weird manner doesn't bother me like it bothers many people. I don't care if he spray-tans and glows orange. I don't care if his hair is weird. (If we're talking about hair, look at ol' Bernie: what does that dude comb his hair with, an egg-beater?) I don't care if Trump likes to brag. Those things mean less to me than the man's (or the administration's) perspective and policies and trajectory.
Re The Prof's previous post: I learned a lot from the last two and a half years too. I didn't vote for or against either major candidate in 2016, and instead I voted 3rd party.
After seeing trump in action and hearing the things he says and 'tweets' (cold shudder), my mind has changed completely and in 2020 I will probably vote for the person who can most likely send him back to his world of casinos, beauty contests and brain dead reality TV shows.
You know, I actually like his tweets. It's a layer of transparency I've never seen before from a President. The guy will go totally off the cuff (some might say, off the rails). I agree he tweets some shudder-worthy stuff, but again, I like the transparency. And I think his sense of humor, while often pretty childish, is pretty darned comical. "Horseface?" My goodness. Amazing. I'm just not offended by that stuff. (I don't think it is professional, or shows world-leader tact, but I find it highly amusing.)
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