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    Posted: February 14 2019 at 06:04
I am quite a new member here but I kind of get the feeling when the Internet was full of discussion forums and fan sites. There used to be tons of fan pages of musicians, which also included forums and discussions about rare tracks and recordings. Then there came Facebook... where everybody has to be himself with his real name and photos (according to the terms of use). And then one by one, a lot of sites and forums just died... ProgArchives reminds me of the good ol' days when you had the right to be quite anonymous and just participate in a community. 

I remember Last.FM before it got ruined with its redesign, now it is an useless platform, I just use it as a database, but the site is really ruined. Nowadays everybody uses Facebook, Twitter and Instagram... 

However, I am happy that such sites like ProgArchives still exist and that the forums are like the old types of forums. Social media is for everyone... and sometimes you don't wanna be around everyone ha ha. 

What do you think? Did the invention called "social media" kill the Internet?
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Hey, Chuck Schuldiner! You're my metal guru hero!

I wouldn't say it killed the internet so much as sanitized and homogenized "group" interactions in a social sense.

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Originally posted by vivoactive vivoactive wrote:

I am quite a new member here but I kind of get the feeling when the Internet was full of discussion forums and fan sites. There used to be tons of fan pages of musicians, which also included forums and discussions about rare tracks and recordings. Then there came Facebook... where everybody has to be himself with his real name and photos (according to the terms of use).
One of these days Facebook is going to work out that Derek Badgerbollocks isn’t my real name....and I'll be in BIG TROUBLE.
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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by vivoactive vivoactive wrote:

I am quite a new member here but I kind of get the feeling when the Internet was full of discussion forums and fan sites. There used to be tons of fan pages of musicians, which also included forums and discussions about rare tracks and recordings. Then there came Facebook... where everybody has to be himself with his real name and photos (according to the terms of use).
One of these days Facebook is going to work out that Derek Badgerbollocks isn’t my real name....and I'll be in BIG TROUBLE.

I am not with my real name either. Call it introversion LOL . Don't wanna use it but no one is using any other chat platform. 
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You are aware I hope that forums like this are also social media?  Big smile

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I think what killed the internet was when PC's and operating systems became simple enough for any old f*ckwit to use the internet. 

So they did. 

The internet would be OK if there was a shallow end and a deep end. 

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Not sure why  you think the internet is dead. It's alive and well in my world.

If anything damaged the internet it is what is referred to as the Google Gestapo which includes Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Wikipedia, Amazon and several others which have lucritive CIA contracts to spread information, engage in censorship and construct a massive global surveillance state.

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I don't know about killing it. The Internet is a really, really big place.
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vivoactive has a valid point though. This forum as well as others where I was or am active lose members and activity to Facebook and co., and as the TO I'm still a good old forums guy and Facebook etc. are not for me.

Though PA quite actively contributed to its own downfall with the Captcha disaster; one thing Facebook cannot be blamed for for sure.
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If anything changed the dynamics of the internet it's the price of constructing and maintaining a website. There are many cool artistic sites that have folded because of these costs. 

I can see the point of commercialization of the internet since everyone is forced to streamline their content for advertisement friendly content. This has definately changed things however the internet has expanded greatly and things have merely migrated to other places. 

The internet suffers from unbridled capitalism like everything else. Until we have more open source technolgoies available to all then we will continue to see a few billionaires control every aspect of reality. This is a universal problem not limited to the internet.

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What is 'social media' ?
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I actually like Facebook's platform, you can read your messages even on very old phones. I think I am nostalgic for some very good artist fan communities which merged to Facebook. A lot of information about an artist's music got lost.

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

You are aware I hope that forums like this are also social media?  Big smile

Sure!


Edited by vivoactive - February 14 2019 at 15:26
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What I think social media has done is illustrate and reinforce without a shadow of a doubt just how little humanity has evolved and how far we still have to go. 
Never before has this been on display so openly and massively as it is with today's social media platforms. I am truly baffled by what people spew online using their own names as if there are zero consequences.   

Yeah, I'm focused on the negatives. There is a lot of positives to social media too but I wonder if we'd have been better off without it. 

I feel like traditional message boards, like this one and many others, have been grandfathered into the umbrella of "social media" and in some cases don't really fit. Reddit, sure because it's so huge, but prog archives? Not so much. 


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I think Vompatti is right, when you can't TELNET to Super Janet using your X Modem and get an ASCII text welcome screen, something has gone very wrong. ;-)

Matter of fact, any floppy drive smaller than 8" - where you don't have to find track 0 using a screwdriver - obviously contains evil spirits. Really, something went out of computers when we stopped using amplifiers to pass sound waves down long tubes of mercury and stopped wrapping wires around ferrite toroids. 

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Ahhh, the good old days. ;-)

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Ferrite Toroids would make a cool band name. Sorry for the digression.
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Personally I agree! I have taken myself off all social media recently due to toxicity. People are so false on social media and there is so much pressure (particularly on females) to look good and promote an amazing lifestyle.

My life is so much better now I am done with all of that. The friends I make and meet on the internet are good friends who i will be friends with for many years to come. I do not miss my old life.
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