The American Politics Thread

You are afraid to say what you think of trump.
Sad.
How is that going to make America great again.
Sad.

IVNORD wrote: Atavachron wrote: ^ Why don't you answer his question.   Coward. I thought you were smarter. Pity.Do search my posts so you will see what I think of Trump.

I have no idea what you think of trump, don't be shy, come out and say it.

Atavachron wrote: IVNORD wrote: Atavachron wrote: ^ Why don't you answer his question.   Coward. I thought you were smarter. Pity.Do search my posts so you will see what I think of Trump. No I'm not very bright.   In fact if this conversation were in person you'd be on the ground right now bleeding, you little cesspool of a man.

Wow, that's serious. What has happened here?

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When it's become this bad that violence would be considered justified in the circumstances, I am extra concerned.

Edited by Logan - February 07 2019 at 22:02

Logan wrote: Atavachron wrote: IVNORD wrote: Atavachron wrote: ^ Why don't you answer his question.   Coward. I thought you were smarter. Pity.Do search my posts so you will see what I think of Trump. No I'm not very bright.   In fact if this conversation were in person you'd be on the ground right now bleeding, you little cesspool of a man. Wow, that's serious. What has happened here? A reminder of the rules for any involved: 2. No Personal attacks (flaming or trolling). Keep it civil, show respect at all times for your fellow members. Disagreement, debate, even "heated" discussion is fine (though emoticons should be used to "soften" the effect of words). However, personally directed insults, denigration, etc. will not be tolerated, and will be grounds for warning and, if not stopped immediately, ejection. This applies equally to forum posts AND private messages. "Group-directed" insults and denigration (e.g., racism, sexism, ageism, etc.) also fall under this category, any such behavior will be taken on a case by case basis. Any member who engages in continuous baiting, borderline insults, or other continuously "aggressive" behaviour will be warned. Any member found to be using concurrent multiple personae (more than one profile at the same time) will be ejected from the site. When it's become this bad that violence would be considered justified in the circumstances, I am extra concerned.

Wow we found the problem with this site finally, its David, who would of thought, I am so shocked.   

^^ I was asking in good faith without looking back on the thread (my daughter is at me for control of the computer now). I'm avoiding assumptions, and not apportioning specific blame. Things got very heated obviously.

I'm sorry to hear that David, all I felt I needed to do was ask at this time.

Edited by Logan - February 07 2019 at 22:17

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword" Jesus from Matthew). I'm a soft atheist cultural Christian cum quasi Buddhist with pacifistic leanings). And I do get how tempers can run high, or in my case it gets extremely frustrating and saddening, when you can't have an honest, respectful good faith discussion with someone (all too common when people come with an agenda and are didactic rather than open-minded). I've been very lucky in my life that I've never needed or felt the need to resort to violence, by the way (I have had a sheltered, unadventurous life living in low crime areas) but we all have our problems aside from immediate circumstances -- I have chronic depression and an anxiety disorder for instance, many on forums suffer from depression and anxiety (and I can be a royal b*****d as my wife would attest if she were not so kind. I think we all forget sometimes that people are going through hard times and we should try to be more forgiving and compassionate often because we don't really know that person's psychology or what they are going through. Tolerance of course must have its limits and I am a cynical person by nature. It's too easy to draw the wrong assumptions and to assign the wrong intent (the principle of charity, ideally, should be in play when in discussion).

Again, I really am sorry to hear about your mother, David.

By the way, while I have enjoyed many a debate on politics over the years, and I do feel passionately about many issues, I tend to avoid politics threads since it too often does devolve into ad hominems, hurt feelings, arrogance, tribalism, belicosity, and petty point scoring rather than open-minded, respectful dialectic between fellow truth seekers. I am a great believer in talking things out but that requires active, rational, thoughtful listeners with generally nuanced perspectives. I tend to avoid discussion with those whom I feel lack those qualities as discussion will not be productive. It's not a good time to post or react , generally speaking, when one is angry or highly-strung as it does affect our ability to think and react rationally. Anger can be a beneficial trait when properly harnessed (Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry -- Dr. Banner).

Edited by Logan - February 08 2019 at 00:45