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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 17:08
Originally posted by IVNORD IVNORD wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

By the way, you're initial post implied that more than one person had called for his impeachment. This was not true as you found only one who did.

Your quote:
I would really hate to spoil some of you guys' sweet dreams in anticipation of Trump's impeachment on grounds of high treason but do you realize that if Mueller has a tiny shred of evidence of Trump being in cahoots with the Russians he must alert the proper authorities immediately upon learning such fact? Not wait for a good moment to release it but do it right away since potential treason in the highest executive office presents immense danger to the country and delaying the announcement.

"Guys' " is plural, so your initial quote is still somewhat amiss unless you find more people who said this.

You are a spin master. I usually ignore it as it really <span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">does get tiresome. B</span>ut this time I wanted to see how far you go. You would do anything to change the subject, wouldn't you?

<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Now getting back to it..... </span>
<span style="font-size: large;">In 2012, Elizabeth Warren couldn’t ‘recall’ Native American claim</span>
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<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">If Trump claimed Cherokee heritage would you consider it "</span><span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">distraction and trivial nonsense?"</span>

I'm really not interested in stuff like that. I'm more interested in affordable health care, fair taxation, clean air and water, voting rights for all who qualify etc.
I could have sworn I said that earlier though.
See if you can find that quote.
Meanwhile, why do you like to use really big letters in your posts?

Edited by Easy Money - February 07 2019 at 17:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 17:47
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I personally don't have a problem with her claiming Indian heritage because her DNA test proved that it was probably true.  

Just one word about this. Those DNA tests are mostly guesswork. There have been tests to see if they are accurate but if you sent your DNA to 12 different companies you'd get 12 different results. The proof was when identical twins got completely different results. As someone who studied biology for 10 years, i can guarantee you that much of what is presented as fact in science is really just an educated guess in many cases.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 18:05
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I personally don't have a problem with her claiming Indian heritage because her DNA test proved that it was probably true.  


Just one word about this. Those DNA tests are mostly guesswork. There have been tests to see if they are accurate but if you sent your DNA to 12 different companies you'd get 12 different results. The proof was when identical twins got completely different results. As someone who studied biology for 10 years, i can guarantee you that much of what is presented as fact in science is really just an educated guess in many cases.

I don't care about trump's DNA or Warren's or anybody else for that matter, but as far as the accuracy of these tests, I'm not an expert at all, but many members of my family have done DNA tests with various companies and we all came out with very similar mixes of German, Irish and North African/Middle Eastern. That doesn't sound like 'guess work' to me.

Possibly there are some non-reputable companies out there, any business eventually draws con artists, but the companies we worked with were quite good.
Law enforcement leans heavily on DNA tests these days, I seriously don't their work is 'guess work' either.

I'd like to see a link to this story about the identical twins, I'd like to see what companies they were using so I can tell others to avoid those companies.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 18:31
^ you were lucky if you got similar results. Look into it more. There have been MANY false convictions based on sloppy DNA testing. If you're not an expert then MAKE yourself an expert and you will see what i mean ;)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 18:32
^ Do you have a link to the story about the identical twins. I'd like to see what companies they were using so I can warn people which companies to avoid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 18:37
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ you were lucky if you got similar results. Look into it more. There have been MANY false convictions based on sloppy DNA testing. If you're not an expert then MAKE yourself an expert and you will see what i mean ;)

I would imagine it takes years and years of research and study to become an expert on DNA. You are lucky you have the time to devote yourself to such a difficult subject.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 18:42
^ I heard an in depth story on KPFA (local listener supported radio station) this morning. Unfortunately i was driving and didn't get to copy any info. I would love to know myself. 

However if you just type in any search engine " authenticity of dna tests " you will find a wealth of reputable sites debunking its absolutism.

This one is fun....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 19:43
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Yes.  Tax returns are far more important.  If they show that he is reporting income from foreign sources that he didn't report on his presidential income statement then it is a major violation and could show him to be compromised.  If he is filing returns that are materially inaccurate or fraudulent then obviously he would have no business being on the outside of a cage. 
Oh! The support group has arrived. Now we will have a real discussion...
Yes, yes, we know, Trump's tax returns are immensely important... yes, income from foreign sources... and he's a Russian spy, everyone knows that.

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Trump tells the truth about as often as hell freezes over and the Detroit Lions win the Super Bowl, so if we were to lie about having Cherokee heritage I would just consider it business as usual. 
Yes, Trump never says a word of truth, and Warren never lies. But forget Trump. What if Bush did that? or any Republican for that matter... Mitch McConnel for example? with his athletic figure, I can easily imagine him riding a horse... or stealing a horse... What if he claimed to have Dakota genes? Would you call him a liar?  

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I personally don't have a problem with her claiming Indian heritage because her DNA test proved that it was probably true.  
Really? Did her test show that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 19:48
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

 

I'm really not interested in stuff like that. I'm more interested in affordable health care, fair taxation, clean air and water, voting rights for all who qualify etc.
I could have sworn I said that earlier though.
See if you can find that quote.
Meanwhile, why do you like to use really big letters in your posts?

You're so sweet... you really want me to find that quote uh? and go for another spin of yours?

And the big letters are precisely for that purpose so you don't miss the line you don't like.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 20:34
^ Thank you for explaining why you use really big letters, now I know why you need to do that.
I'm guessing that possibly you are a trump supporter, maybe not, but from what I've seen in this thread, the trump minnions have a thing for the really big letters.
Use the search function again and you will see what I mean.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 20:54
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ Thank you for explaining why you use really big letters, now I know why you need to do that.
I'm guessing that possibly you are a trump supporter, maybe not, but from what I've seen in this thread, you guys have a thing for the really big letters.

You're very welcome. Why did you erase that phrase about this Ophalma woman? Smile
You've noticed I've called you a spin master. Not a spin artist but Master. Because you're great at it.

OT: are you a Pelosi fan or I confuse you with someone else? Anyway, I am becoming a Pelosi fan too! LOLLOL
At least she has brains to restrain that patented cretin Ocasia-Cortez

Nancy Pelosi just threw some serious shade at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's 'Green New Deal

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/07/politics/pelosi-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal/index.html

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 21:05
O! It's even better here LOL

Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) flipped her dentures at the "new face of the Democratic Party," Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), as the freshman congresswoman unveils the final draft of her ambitious "Green New Deal" legislation. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-07/pelosi-mocks-ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 21:08
^ Are you a trump supporter?
You seem like you are.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 21:12
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ Are you a trump supporter?
You seem like you are.

You keep on proving your title of Spin Master.

So how do you like Ocasio-Cortez?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 21:18
She is not important to me, too trendy with the media and too much attention from the more shallow 'liberal' news outlets. I do appreciate her naive enthusiasm though, we need more participation from young people.

What do you think of trump?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 21:23
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

She is not important to me, too trendy with the media and too much attention from the more shallow 'liberal' news outlets. I do appreciate her naive enthusiasm though, we need more participation from young people.

What do you think of trump?

Who do you like more - Ocasio-Cortez or Pelosi?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 21:27
^ Why don't you answer his question.   Coward.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 21:29
My guess is that IVAN Ord is a Russian troll who has 1,174 posts all in a political thread on a prog rock website.  Seriously who else would waste all of their time on a prog rock site talking politics.

I have no doubt that Warren is also a liar. How can I tell? Because she is a politician and her lips are moving.  Trump on the other hand has taken lying to an all new level. If he isn't on the take with foreign countries and he isn't lying about his wealth there is a really simple solution.  Release your tax returns like previous presidents. All the rumors and innuendos will go away if there isn't anything there. Sounds like a pretty simple task to end all of the speculation....doesn't it?   Or maybe he really does have something to hide. He seems like the kind of guy who might understate his taxable income by a few million dollars or so. 

And yes...her test did show that she had American Indian heritage. Maybe less than she thought but it is enough that I believe it is enough to support her family stories. And definitely more American Indian blood than what is flowing through my veins.  And maybe as Silly Puppy stated maybe the test isn't accurate. Maybe it is.  Either way it is less offensive to me than Trump calling her Pocahontas.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 21:31
Originally posted by IVNORD IVNORD wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

She is not important to me, too trendy with the media and too much attention from the more shallow 'liberal' news outlets. I do appreciate her naive enthusiasm though, we need more participation from young people.

What do you think of trump?


Who do you like more - Ocasio-Cortez or Pelosi?


I have an easy answer for you, but first tell me what you think of trump.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2019 at 21:33
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^ Why don't you answer his question.   Coward.


I thought you were smarter. Pity.

Do search my posts so you will see what I think of Trump.
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