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Atavachron 
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 Posted: January 22 2019 at 18:32 |
 AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
Oh, yes, my most un-favourite Prez of all time, until 45. |
Who Reagan? He seems to be one of the more popular presents of "recent" times. I can actually think of two who are worse(well, at least imo) and those would be George H Bush and Richard Nixon and of course the current "president" but that goes without saying. Reagan is pretty over rated though. |
Actually after all that's happened, I have rather fond memories of Bush Senior. He was an intelligent and mostly ethical man who started and ended a war in, what, two weeks? Pretty good. It took an ex-CIA chief to know the pitfalls of an extended invasion.
Oh, George, how we miss your traditional conservatism and morality.
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micky
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 18:32 |
the not so funny point was brought up by my friend though..
aside from the cute accents and charming local expressions you heard .. a great example of the difference in cultures... when one snaps there... sh*t goes viral..and you become a internet legend to be enjoyed and toasted
here... he would showed up with a gun became a statistic ....
Edited by micky - January 22 2019 at 18:34
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 18:34 |
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I've seen backhoes take up 14.4 kva and the driver .. runs.. not walks away. It is fun stuff man... literally melted the bucket in the arc explosion. As I know better than anyone having the burns, scars and experience.. there is pretty much no overcurrent protection on that stuff. He just shorted out the circuits and tripped the breakers as he tore through that building.. as I read.. the building had just been completely and was ready to be turned over the owners. GREAT stuff.. many a toast.. including here went out to him. Big business can only f**k with little guy so long before they snap..and he will live forever in his moment.
I heard his gofundme page got 1000's of quid just today.. shame it will likely go not to his lost wages.. but his legal defense fund hahah. Last I heard.. they still haven't caught him yet.... probably holed up in a pub getting all the free drinks he can handle .. but he'll pay for it tomorrow hahah
We saw that at work today and we decided if any of our checks bounce.. we also will be global icons and working class heros and show what a trencher can do to a conversion work van... not after we run it through the office window and cut the owners 10k desk in half with it.... |
I heard later that the money had been posted to his account but he didn't check, and it would've shown up in a day or two. I don't blame his anger but I guess it shows why patience is a virtue. Poor guy-- first stiffed and then embarrassed.
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micky
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 18:39 |
*spits beer on monitor*
oh good God.. I hadn't heard that.. good thing he is probably sleeping with his head in pub urinal tonight to be too embarassed.... for tomorrow is going to be a bad day for him.. 
temporary insanity.... his best plea .. at least all he took out with him was a silly business. Not a score of his coworkers, bosses or innocents.
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 18:44 |
BTW, Trump's little remark about S.F.'s 'disgusting streets'? F*ck him. Seriously. S.F. streets are no worse than NYC, Detroit, Chicago, and many others. Sure there are some gross areas, but please, most agree that it's one of the most beautiful places in the world. And his statement could badly hurt tourism. Has he ever walked the streets of SF lately? I'm guessing not. What a sh*thead.
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:08 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
Oh, yes, my most un-favourite Prez of all time, until 45. |
Who Reagan? He seems to be one of the more popular presents of "recent" times. I can actually think of two who are worse(well, at least imo) and those would be George H Bush and Richard Nixon and of course the current "president" but that goes without saying. Reagan is pretty over rated though. |
I believe that he was largely responsible for what has become a large portion of the homeless problem in the US. He repealed the OBRA Act, which was for federal funding of mental health problems. Some sources state that as much as one third of the homeless population is suffering from severe mental illness (yes, and drug and alcohol addiction, which are personal choices in many cases, but sometimes the root causes are the reason for seeking self-medication). About 12% of the homeless are veterans. Local police, hospitals and the penal system is forced to deal with the aftermath of this and the problem has grown since his administration.
He seems to have some kind of halo effect amongst many, but I think he was just another bad actor.
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:09 |
Atavachron wrote:
Actually after all that's happened, I have rather fond memories of Bush Senior. He was an intelligent and mostly ethical man who started and ended a war in, what, two weeks? Pretty good. It took an ex-CIA chief to know the pitfalls of an extended invasion.
Oh, George, how we miss your traditional conservatism and morality.
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I never thought I'd miss the Bushes, but 45 changed all that for me.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:16 |
Snicolette wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
Oh, yes, my most un-favourite Prez of all time, until 45. |
Who Reagan? He seems to be one of the more popular presents of "recent" times. I can actually think of two who are worse(well, at least imo) and those would be George H Bush and Richard Nixon and of course the current "president" but that goes without saying. Reagan is pretty over rated though. |
I believe that he was largely responsible for what has become a large portion of the homeless problem in the US. He repealed the OBRA Act, which was for federal funding of mental health problems. Some sources state that as much as one third of the homeless population is suffering from severe mental illness (yes, and drug and alcohol addiction, which are personal choices in many cases, but sometimes the root causes are the reason for seeking self-medication). About 12% of the homeless are veterans. Local police, hospitals and the penal system is forced to deal with the aftermath of this and the problem has grown since his administration.
He seems to have some kind of halo effect amongst many, but I think he was just another bad actor. |
Only 12 percent are veterans? I thought it was a lot more than that. However, looking it up just now online it says 9 percent and that the number has dropped since 2009. Could be fake news though. :P
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:18 |
Atavachron wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
Oh, yes, my most un-favourite Prez of all time, until 45. |
Who Reagan? He seems to be one of the more popular presents of "recent" times. I can actually think of two who are worse(well, at least imo) and those would be George H Bush and Richard Nixon and of course the current "president" but that goes without saying. Reagan is pretty over rated though. |
Actually after all that's happened, I have rather fond memories of Bush Senior. He was an intelligent and mostly ethical man who started and ended a war in, what, two weeks? Pretty good. It took an ex-CIA chief to know the pitfalls of an extended invasion.
Oh, George, how we miss your traditional conservatism and morality.
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That was my mistake. I meant George W Bush(the younger one). However, both these days are looking pretty good and at least W. is now a rather accomplished portrait artist.
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Easy Money
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:24 |
Atavachron wrote:
And his statement could badly hurt tourism. Has he ever walked the streets of SF lately? I'm guessing not. What a sh*thead.
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His statement won't do much damage because trump minions are already afraid of San Francisco and probably were not planning a visit anytime soon anyways.
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:28 |
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Percentages probably waver with the source and when the study was done....we do know that there are plenty of homeless vets. Anyway, I see that you take my point. Lots of people forget Reagan did that....and there was that little Iran Contra thing, too. He was no saint, although it would seem that some think so
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:29 |
Easy Money wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
And his statement could badly hurt tourism. Has he ever walked the streets of SF lately? I'm guessing not. What a sh*thead. |
His statement won't do much damage because trump minions are already afraid of San Francisco and probably were not planning a visit anytime soon anyways. |
Still, it will hurt the city for awhile, and you don't have to be a minion to be influenced by something like that. And one can't help but think what he was really talking about was the city and people.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:43 |
Snicolette wrote:
Percentages probably waver with the source and when the study was done....we do know that there are plenty of homeless vets. Anyway, I see that you take my point. Lots of people forget Reagan did that....and there was that little Iran Contra thing, too. He was no saint, although it would seem that some think so |
I agree but I don't think he was as bad as George W. Bush especially with the whole Iraq war thing. Just my opinion though. Both(and all the others too for that matter)pale in comparison to what we have now though.
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:44 |
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Yes, 45 takes the cake!
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 19:52 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
Percentages probably waver with the source and when the study was done....we do know that there are plenty of homeless vets. Anyway, I see that you take my point. Lots of people forget Reagan did that....and there was that little Iran Contra thing, too. He was no saint, although it would seem that some think so |
I agree but I don't think he was as bad as George W. Bush especially with the whole Iraq war thing. Just my opinion though. Both(and all the others too for that matter)pale in comparison to what we have now though. |
Reagan was a dope. I'd rather have a smart experienced pro than a bumbling buffoon, right-wing or not.
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 22 2019 at 20:33 |
Atavachron wrote:
\Reagan was a dope. I'd rather have a smart experienced pro than a bumbling buffoon, right-wing or not.
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Thank you.
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npjnpj
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Posted: January 23 2019 at 03:31 |
I find the thought of any smart experienced right-wing pro absolutely terrifying. The US senate is full of the buggers, and every time they open their mouths it gives me the creeps.
Edited by npjnpj - January 23 2019 at 03:36
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 23 2019 at 06:07 |
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I find the thought of any smart experienced right-wing pro absolutely terrifying. The US senate is full of the buggers, and every time they open their mouths it gives me the creeps.
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You're right on there, also...But at least they have a working vocabulary.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 23 2019 at 14:18 |
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Many of them aren't dumb but they just have misguided and outdated values. For example they think if someone has a sex change operation(say they were born a male and transition to female both biologically and culturally) and live as a woman then they still should use the men's room because male is the gender they were born as.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - January 23 2019 at 14:20
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 23 2019 at 15:14 |
Very outdated and have been for years. Anyone around here ever read (or seen) A Boy and His Dog? The GOP has always reminded me of the parade in the story (and film). Both a bit controversial....but I do love Harlan Ellison. That McConnell is just such a smug jerk.
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