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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65695 |
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Yeah they're two different animals, which is what was so cool. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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I wouldn't say UK sounds like any King Crimson, others mileage may vary, but if you want to keep exploring the Crimson world, I'd look at a couple options: 1) I you really like the 1st 2, then I'd keep going in order of release of the 70's studio albums. Be prepared...next up is Lizard which I found the hardest, yet most rewarding of all the Crimson albums to dig deep into. I loved Cirkus on first listen, but it took me quite awhile to fully appreciate the rest of it, but once reaching that stage...prog nirvana ![]() 2) If you're not that crazy about the 1st 2 and want as similar to UK as possible, start with Larks Tongues and move in order through the Wetton/Bruford era ![]() |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Perhaps I should get more king crimson....if that's what uk is like...I have the first two so what's next
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20671 |
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^I was also hoping for more of a Crimson sound......
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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Took a long time to grow on me, but the 1st album is a classic. The great tension between the jazzers and rockers created a wonderful hybrid - though I bought it as soon as it came out and was generally disappointed that it wasn't more "Crimson-like"
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irrelevant ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 07 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 13382 |
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Me too. The self-titled never did much for me though, aside from "In the Dead of Night".
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Just spun both cd's. Both 5 star on first spin! How the fook have I not listened to these for 40 years....how many more hidden gems are there for me to garner?
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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You a vinyl spinner Scot?^
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miamiscot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3629 |
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Love both UK albums but Danger Money gets more play at my crib.
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Strangely I have both vinyl albums in mint condition. But have never listened to them. I have just bought them both on CD. I have been looking for a while but they were both very expensive until I found them both for 27 quid...
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18755 |
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Not sure why you think it's boring. "Nothing To Lose" is worth the price of admission. EDIT: Sorry, I should have connected your username to the absence of a certain guitarist. ![]() Edited by verslibre - September 24 2018 at 20:09 |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65695 |
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^ Agreed: Bozzio is a demon, but NAN is just boring |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18755 |
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IMO, Night After Night is a fine live album by the Jobson-Wetton-Bozzio trio. At the time, you couldn't get a much more rockin' drummer than Bozzio, at least not one who was fluent in multiple approaches. The only other guy was Stewart Copeland.
If you prefer the quartet, obviously you'll like Concert Classics Vol. 4 better. But I don't think the 4tet did the Danger Money songs better than the trio.
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65695 |
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The live one most people know is Night After Night, a not-so-inspired performance. The better live album (though with inferior sound) is Concert Classics vol. 4 . Both may be on the box set, not sure ~ ![]() |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29638 |
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Bruford is hard to replace indeed, can't think of a single drummer that was/is like him except maybe Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) who was the punk equivalent (and also rather brilliant in his own way)
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12816 |
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^ I did get a live album of them along with the original one, which has got some songs from the second album, but played by the original line-up. However, I'm afraid it didn't do much for me either... yet, I guess that fans of the studio albums should like it just the same. I didn't try and listen to the newer live versions from this decade, but somehow I would have hope that they might have played to songs in a warmer way that I might have enjoyed more... yet I lost interest is confirming it given that Bruford was not in the line-up.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29638 |
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Both studio albums are great. The second album has more 'balls' as they decided to be 'ELP Mk11' but the first is a perfect example of where symphonic prog was at in 1977. There is just enough of the jazz rock fusion influence to make it distinct without it becoming dull . My only slight criticism is that I would like it to sound a bit more punchier (production issues maybe). I would love to track down the live album they did but was never going to pay £200 for that deluxe box set which seems to be the only way you can get it nowadays.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18755 |
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Indeed. I'm one of the oddballs who PREFERS Danger Money. It's a fantastic record.
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20671 |
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Great band and album...I didn't discover them until several years after the album was released.
I still like the first one the best due to the original line up but the second one is also excellent.
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JediJoker7169 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 05 2009 Location: West Coast, NA Status: Offline Points: 195 |
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Holdsworth makes the first album really special. Very sad to lose both him and Wetton in such a short span of time, both to disease.
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