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prog4evr ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 22 2005 Location: Wuhan, China Status: Offline Points: 1455 |
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The line-up of Allan Holdsworth, Bill Bruford, Eddie Jobson, and John Wetton (RIP) was second to NONE. The first album is a phenomenal display of their prog and virtuoso sensibilities. I am aware that some songs on their first album are "debatable" for artistic majesty, but I - for one - find none of the songs on this first album with fallible character. Rather, it is the best album the group ever produced - especially since Bruford and Holdsworth left the band to form Bruford's solo band constituency of the late 1970's and and early 1980's. Several times before Wetton passed unfortunately, Jobson & Wetton "put the band back together" (albeit without Bruford or Holdsworth) - but, nonetheless, stellar in its incarnation. Most, if not all, of the music on this first album is "timeless" (though that might be debated amongst the purists, as it were). Let us raise up a toast (of whatever beverage is best for your overall health) to the prog super-group of prog super-groups: UK!
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Davels666 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 20 2018 Location: Bracciano Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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An indisputable masterpiece! pity that the group has not had a long discography!
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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I thought the debut was fantastic and I still play it a lot today. The down side was that it gave me some false hope that prog would continue in both quality and quantity during the punk/new wave explosion but that was not be! Rats.
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Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1636 |
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What a great description of this album! Thanks for the most excellent tribute. Wetton was always a master, but this was his best gig, and having Holdsworth in the mix was pure magic. I remember when I discovered this album, long after its release and thought "where have you been all my life?"
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12816 |
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Given the great apreciation this band and album have in the forum, I got it with high expectations, but it really didn't measure up for me. There's just something that didn't click with me. Some nice moments, but the melodies just didn't grab me, and Wetton's singing just didn't work for me.
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JediJoker7169 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 05 2009 Location: West Coast, NA Status: Offline Points: 195 |
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Holdsworth makes the first album really special. Very sad to lose both him and Wetton in such a short span of time, both to disease.
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20671 |
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Great band and album...I didn't discover them until several years after the album was released.
I still like the first one the best due to the original line up but the second one is also excellent.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18755 |
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Indeed. I'm one of the oddballs who PREFERS Danger Money. It's a fantastic record.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29638 |
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Both studio albums are great. The second album has more 'balls' as they decided to be 'ELP Mk11' but the first is a perfect example of where symphonic prog was at in 1977. There is just enough of the jazz rock fusion influence to make it distinct without it becoming dull . My only slight criticism is that I would like it to sound a bit more punchier (production issues maybe). I would love to track down the live album they did but was never going to pay £200 for that deluxe box set which seems to be the only way you can get it nowadays.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12816 |
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^ I did get a live album of them along with the original one, which has got some songs from the second album, but played by the original line-up. However, I'm afraid it didn't do much for me either... yet, I guess that fans of the studio albums should like it just the same. I didn't try and listen to the newer live versions from this decade, but somehow I would have hope that they might have played to songs in a warmer way that I might have enjoyed more... yet I lost interest is confirming it given that Bruford was not in the line-up.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29638 |
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Bruford is hard to replace indeed, can't think of a single drummer that was/is like him except maybe Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) who was the punk equivalent (and also rather brilliant in his own way)
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65695 |
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The live one most people know is Night After Night, a not-so-inspired performance. The better live album (though with inferior sound) is Concert Classics vol. 4 . Both may be on the box set, not sure ~ ![]() |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18755 |
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IMO, Night After Night is a fine live album by the Jobson-Wetton-Bozzio trio. At the time, you couldn't get a much more rockin' drummer than Bozzio, at least not one who was fluent in multiple approaches. The only other guy was Stewart Copeland.
If you prefer the quartet, obviously you'll like Concert Classics Vol. 4 better. But I don't think the 4tet did the Danger Money songs better than the trio.
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65695 |
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^ Agreed: Bozzio is a demon, but NAN is just boring |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18755 |
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Not sure why you think it's boring. "Nothing To Lose" is worth the price of admission. EDIT: Sorry, I should have connected your username to the absence of a certain guitarist. ![]() Edited by verslibre - September 24 2018 at 20:09 |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Strangely I have both vinyl albums in mint condition. But have never listened to them. I have just bought them both on CD. I have been looking for a while but they were both very expensive until I found them both for 27 quid...
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miamiscot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3629 |
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Love both UK albums but Danger Money gets more play at my crib.
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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You a vinyl spinner Scot?^
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Just spun both cd's. Both 5 star on first spin! How the fook have I not listened to these for 40 years....how many more hidden gems are there for me to garner?
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irrelevant ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 07 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 13382 |
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Me too. The self-titled never did much for me though, aside from "In the Dead of Night".
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