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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


^ Hmm. If I had to guess, I bet you gave the cover to the Lamb album by Genesis a work out once or twice. :)
Sounds like an old Carlin routine. "What are they doing with those albums?" Anyway, Bruford's last studio album with Yes can't be labeled overrated. It's an impossibility.
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An album that's permeated with "you're listening to something rare and very special" 
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Originally posted by Boojieboy Boojieboy wrote:

It's good and average among the classics of prog. Not necessarily anything spectacular. But in the Top 15 or so. If it had say another song or two, pushing it closer to a hour, and the liner notes had tons of pictures and information, I'd give it a little more recognition.


Yeah, however, it couldn't have ane more songs nor reach one hour, since Vinyl wouldn't allow it. And pictures and information on the liner notes, as far as I'm concerned, are secondary to the greatness of an album. I rate and enjoy an album for it's music... having good lyrics, a nice cover, or lot's of stuff on the liner notes are just an extra that I might like and enjoy too, but they won't make me like the music any better. And I do prefer a 40 min album in which every song is excellent, than to stretch it to 60 min, and end up putting sub-par songs (I do believe CD's have harmed the quality of albums released in that way, since bands don't have to be so selective about what makes it into the album). And sure enough some of the re-issues of the album have more pictures and Roger Dean paintings and info that the earlier ones.
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Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


^ Hmm. If I had to guess, I bet you gave the cover to the Lamb album by Genesis a work out once or twice. :)
Sounds like an old Carlin routine. "What are they doing with those albums?" Anyway, Bruford's last studio album with Yes can't be labeled overrated. It's an impossibility.
As far as I know, Bruford wasnīt very much into "Close to the Edge", at least not itīs lyrics. He had heard "Total Mass Retain" as "Total Mass Return" and asked "you mean puke?". I believe one reason he left was he didnīt like the direction Yes was going.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ok, Close to the Edge. Deserving of the accolades or overrated? And what about that great cover?
 
Given that I think Pawn Hearts is better than Close To The Edge, maybe I do think it is a little overrated. However, there aren't many albums that I know that are better than Close To The Edge, and I do accept that Close To The Edge is a masterpiece that is more aligned to people's tastes than Pawn Hearts.
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


^ Hmm. If I had to guess, I bet you gave the cover to the Lamb album by Genesis a work out once or twice. :)
Sounds like an old Carlin routine. "What are they doing with those albums?" Anyway, Bruford's last studio album with Yes can't be labeled overrated. It's an impossibility.
As far as I know, Bruford wasnīt very much into "Close to the Edge", at least not itīs lyrics. He had heard "Total Mass Retain" as "Total Mass Return" and asked "you mean puke?". I believe one reason he left was he didnīt like the direction Yes was going.


Now, there seems to be some very different versions or interpretations, about what happened with Bruford and his leaving after CttE... and his impression of the album. What I remember reading about it is that he thought that one couldn't be improved upon.
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Siberian Khatru is inferior to the rest of the album. It's the Epping Forest of Close to the Edge.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Siberian Khatru is inferior to the rest of the album. It's the Epping Forest of Close to the Edge.
Siberian Khatru is great and should not be compared to that hard slog of a track. 
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Siberian Khatru is inferior to the rest of the album. It's the Epping Forest of Close to the Edge.
Siberian Khatru is great and should not be compared to that hard slog of a track. 

yeah .. love ya Greg but you whiffed on that one. Shorter, punchier and more interesting with kick ass licks..

no.. absolutely nothing like the Bataan death march snore fest of prog that was Epping.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Siberian Khatru is inferior to the rest of the album. It's the Epping Forest of Close to the Edge.

Siberian Khatru is great and should not be compared to that hard slog of a track. 


yeah .. love ya Greg but you whiffed on that one. Shorter, punchier and more interesting with kick ass licks..

no.. absolutely nothing like the Bataan death march snore fest of prog that was Epping.


Yeah, Siberian Khatru is my least favourite song from the album, but still it's a great song and worthy of being in a masterpiece album. Battle of Epping Forest is indeed the song that ruins the masterpiece category of Selling England for me... if only that song were as good as Siberian Khatru, I may consider Selling England as great as Close to the Edge.
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I like both Siberian Khatru and The Battle Of Epping Forest...
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I love this jazz-rock mashup of Siberian Khatru, this has always been a favorite!  


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Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

I like both Siberian Khatru and The Battle Of Epping Forest...
I think both are just great!
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It's the archetypal apex of progressive rock for me, and always has been.

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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I love this jazz-rock mashup of Siberian Khatru, this has always been a favorite!  


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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

I like both Siberian Khatru and The Battle Of Epping Forest...
I think both are just great!

Me too. Khatru comes over slightly badly due to being on the same album as two of the greatest prog songs ever recorded. I've never had a problem with Epping Forest, there are better tracks on SEBTP and there are worse.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

I like both Siberian Khatru and The Battle Of Epping Forest...
I think both are just great!

Me too. Khatru comes over slightly badly due to being on the same album as two of the greatest prog songs ever recorded. I've never had a problem with Epping Forest, there are better tracks on SEBTP and there are worse.
Well, to me Khatru has always been a lot greater than title track. You & I is as great as Khatru.
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Absolutely their finest hour ,everyone involved working together making magic.
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Close to the Edge never really clicked with me, and I have heard it considerable times over the past 30 plus years. I do like the title track, but I feel like it could use some pruning. Maybe I just never got over the initial disappointment when I was very big on Fragile.   These days I prefer the pre-Fragile albums to others by Yes.
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Originally posted by grantman grantman wrote:

Absolutely their finest hour ,everyone involved working together making magic.


Completely agree! A superlative album in every way
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