Eloy Discovery Zone - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Author

Message

Topic Search

Topic Options

Tom Ozric

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15916

Posted: August 21 2017 at 20:58

I believe Matze has a solo album somewhere but I've never seen it.

verslibre

Forum Senior Member

Joined: July 01 2004
Location: CA
Status: Offline
Points: 17154

Posted: August 22 2017 at 16:28

Tom Ozric wrote:

I believe Matze has a solo album somewhere but I've never seen it.

It's called, simply, Matze. Never issued on CD. 1983. KPM sings & plays bass. Arkona and Folberth play guitar and keyboards. Drums by Olav Gustaffson.

eBay

richardh

Prog Reviewer

Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 28029

Posted: August 23 2017 at 01:46

^ probably my favourite bass player. I've said it before but the bass lines on Time To Turn are so good I tend to just listen to those and ignore everything else going on!

Tom Ozric

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15916

Posted: August 23 2017 at 03:29

^^ Thanks for posting that piece !! Great track - very reminiscent of Colours.
^ Oh yeah, KPM is SUPERB on the bass - his creative lines and tones are perfect, every time

Wow - just checked Discogs and there's 10 copies of the Matze vinyl from around $11 !! Gotta be looking into that

Edited by Tom Ozric - August 23 2017 at 03:32

verslibre

Forum Senior Member

Joined: July 01 2004
Location: CA
Status: Offline
Points: 17154

Posted: August 23 2017 at 09:40

Matze is also one of my favorite bassists. He really stands out in the mix. Frank said that Matze's the most skilled bass player he personally knows, adding (paraphrased) "the only other bassist I know of [who may be better at what he does] is Geddy Lee."

That's high praise in my book!

eBay

Kingsnake

Forum Senior Member

Joined: November 03 2006
Location: Rockpommelland
Status: Offline
Points: 1578

Posted: August 23 2017 at 10:36

I would like to say to you all: you should check out discogs, I've found out tons of albums where Hannes, Hannes, Matze, Jan Nemec etc. played on. Especially during the eighties.

Tom Ozric

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15916

Posted: August 23 2017 at 16:55

I used to get really stoned and listen to music - Eloy were perfect, especially Planets. Planets was the real winner with that, and I put it down (other than the great compositions / writing) to Folberth's synths. They were - and still are - intoxicating. Such atmospheres and sounds have rarely been matched.

Barbu

Forum Senior Member

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: infinity
Status: Offline
Points: 30850

Posted: August 23 2017 at 20:58

My main co-worker was sick today so I took control of the sound system at work. Usually it's the commercial radio playing and the bosses are never there anyway so it was Colours, Planets and Time to Turn on repeat mode, baby.

Went down pretty well, no complaint. Got a few: is that Pink Floyd? though.

Tom Ozric

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15916

Posted: August 23 2017 at 21:49

Funny how Eloy gets compared to Floyd.
IMO, only in certain atmospheric idioms. They couldn't be more different to each other.

Kingsnake

Forum Senior Member

Joined: November 03 2006
Location: Rockpommelland
Status: Offline
Points: 1578

Posted: August 24 2017 at 03:39

Eloy borrowed a few things from Pink Floyd (and maybe vice versa).

The bass-intro to Poseidon's Creation (although the song eventually is much different to Pink Floyd), the intro to Say Is It Really True sounds a lot like Wish You Were Here.

All in all the guitarsolos of Bornemann are like Gilmours. The same approach (but Latimer does it to, and nobody complains about Camel).

The synths of Wright and the synths of Schmidtgen are sometimes alike. They use the same sounds and approach.

But the hardrocking egde of Bornemann/Arkona, the heavy drumming of Rosenthal, Randow, Schopf and McGilivray are something that Pink Floyd's Mason could only dream of.

Also Folberth is way beyond anyone in the game genre. Haven't heard anyone play the synths like he does. Maybe Piers Oak-Rhind of Entheogenic or some parts of Ozric Tentacles. Yogi Lang of RPWL does a good job aswell (although he sounds more like Manfred Mann).

The comparisons between Eloy and Pink Floyd are there, but only at the surface. They are in the same genre (but Nektar and Jane were aswell), so it's obvious they sound alike sometimes.

Edited by Kingsnake - August 24 2017 at 03:40

kenethlevine View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Prog-Folk Team

Joined: December 06 2006
Location: New England
Status: Offline
Points: 8951

Posted: August 24 2017 at 04:09

Barbu wrote:

My main co-worker was sick today so I took control of the sound system at work. Usually it's the commercial radio playing and the bosses are never there anyway so it was Colours, Planets and Time to Turn on repeat mode, baby.

Went down pretty well, no complaint. Got a few: is that Pink Floyd? though.

awesome!

Tom Ozric

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15916

Posted: August 24 2017 at 04:13

^^ Nailed it completely, my friend

There are superficial similarities no doubt, so, yeah, a similar spacey-Prog styling, yet infinitely different.
Now you got me........I'm thinking that I love Eloy more than classic early Floyd.
Perhaps, Floyd moved on after WYWH (or even Animals) and Eloy picked up the banner from there in a most forward-thinking way. But it's cool that Floyd are in close proximity to what Eloy do, as a reference point.

Edited by Tom Ozric - August 24 2017 at 04:22

Kingsnake

Forum Senior Member

Joined: November 03 2006
Location: Rockpommelland
Status: Offline
Points: 1578

Posted: August 24 2017 at 04:21

On top of that, Pink Floyd only had 3 or 4 essential albums.

I love Animals, Wish You Were Here, Dark Side and The Wall.

But Eloy only has 1 or 2 stinkers (Ra and Destination), but they are okay-ish by me.

Of all the rip-off bands, I think Airbag takes the cake. But nobody complains about them.

And an album like Dawn and the Planets/Time to Turn-suite is unrivalled in progrockmusic. Only Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre and Entheogenic come close to that kind of synthesizer-extravaganza.

Tom Ozric

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15916

Posted: August 24 2017 at 04:25

I love it folks know their sh*t

(Not claiming I do, I just feel it in my bones...... I'm on an Extreme Metal binge/phase/extravaganza at the moment.....)

Kingsnake

Forum Senior Member

Joined: November 03 2006
Location: Rockpommelland
Status: Offline
Points: 1578

Posted: August 24 2017 at 05:28

I'm on a space/psybient/ambient/symphonic binge.

And now playing Ocean II because tomorrow is Eloy-day all day :D

Edited by Kingsnake - August 24 2017 at 05:29

Tom Ozric

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15916

Posted: August 24 2017 at 05:37

^ Strooth mate - Eloy all day. What a stupendous idea. I love to mix it up. I'm going from Gorguts to Nile, Curved Air to Rolling Stones.......now I'm focusing (focussing) on Eloy.........

verslibre

Forum Senior Member

Joined: July 01 2004
Location: CA
Status: Offline
Points: 17154

Posted: August 24 2017 at 09:37

Tom Ozric wrote:

^^ Thanks for posting that piece !! Great track - very reminiscent of Colours.
^ Oh yeah, KPM is SUPERB on the bass - his creative lines and tones are perfect, every time

Wow - just checked Discogs and there's 10 copies of the Matze vinyl from around $11 !! Gotta be looking into that

Matze also recorded another solo album the very next year (1984) under the moniker KPM! It's called Run For Cover. The CD is hard to come by (and not cheap).

Same personnel, with the addition of Lothar Krist on sax.