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Lewian
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Posted: June 22 2017 at 08:25 |
I'd always have thought and expected that Can can go on forever doing new original progressive and always developing music, their members, that is, in solo projects. And indeed Jaki Liebezeit came out with such exciting music straight to his death, RIP.  Irmin and Holger have been somewhat quieter recently but they soon hit 80. There's some dazzling stuff that they recorded in the sixties and early seventies though. I saw Asmus Tietchens last year and even had a small chat with him (that's not difficult, he attracts crowds of 70 or so) and he showed no signs whatsoever of decline. Steve Hackett seems like still in his forties, he can go on for some decades. The latest offerings by VDGG are just fine, although the last one can all too easily be interpreted as a swansong, lyrics-wise. I'd love to see Renaissance live these days although I don't expect anything new and original from them, same Camel. With KC I'm not so sure; Fripp may just decide to surprise once more. Gilmour and Waters still deserve an ear, Yes, Genesis and Tull/Anderson are pretty much heroes of the past for me for ages. If Tim Smith gets his hands on some music again at some point (and some think this may happen), that'd be a dream come true. Granted, he's not quite that old but after what he has been through...
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Meltdowner
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Posted: June 22 2017 at 08:42 |
I've seen a few older bands but the only yea I can think of is Amon Düül II, it was absolutely terrible.
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SteveG
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Posted: June 22 2017 at 08:45 |
Were they Amon Dull?
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Meltdowner
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Posted: June 22 2017 at 09:01 |
It was worse than dull. Most musicians were over 70, the band had two drummers, each playing at a different speed. The rest of the band just playing on their own, since no one could follow them (and probably couldn't, even if they played right). To top this, the sound was painfully loud.
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timothy leary
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Posted: June 22 2017 at 09:23 |
Linda Perhacs
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SteveG
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Posted: June 23 2017 at 09:42 |
^Linda may have rolled a few but she never rocked.
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timothy leary
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Posted: June 23 2017 at 10:37 |
For a guy who has never seen the Chimacum Rain you seem to know a lot about it. Thinking Linda's creativity was or is fueled by drugs is a sad assumption. I guess we need to put something catchy at the bottom of our posts.
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timothy leary
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Posted: June 23 2017 at 10:46 |
http://www.npr.org/2014/03/05/283049017/the-legend-of-linda-perhacs-a-most-unlikely-rock-star
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SteveG
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Posted: June 23 2017 at 11:51 |
timothy leary wrote:
For a guy who has never seen the Chimacum Rain you seem to know a lot about it. Thinking Linda's creativity was or is fueled by drugs is a sad assumption. I guess we need to put something catchy at the bottom of our posts. |
Absolutely true, Tim.
I had the great pleasure of meeting Linda through a friend after she released her second album in 2014. I've always been a big fan of her 1970 album Parallelograms. She pointed out the "catchy post" to me from a blog site on acid folk. She thought it was a hoot and seemed not to take her self too seriously. Now, wouldn't it be nice if we all could be like that? 
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 23 2017 at 12:02 |
SteveG wrote:
^Linda may have rolled a few but she never rocked. |
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Argo2112
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Posted: June 23 2017 at 14:27 |
A couple of ways to look at this topic. On the one hand age does take a toll on all of us & it seems some of the vocalists show the effects more than other band members. Roger Daltrey, Ian Gillan, Geddy Lee all sounded better 20 years ago than they do now. On the other hand I think you can still go and enjoy a show even is the artists are not quite what they use to be. I took my kids to see Sir Paul last summer. His voice was a little shaky but his energy was great and he did a great show. ( & he's a friggin' Beatle so that counts for a lot!)
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infocat
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 16:05 |
Saw Crim last night. They are still worthy.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 18:20 |
Saw Robin Trower. Dude can still jam at 72. I mean really jam. His newer releases are quite good as well.
I gave up on Ian Anderson several years ago. His voice is cringe-worthy, and without Martin Barre there really is no connection to Tull any longer. He should stick with the orchestral tours because he plays as great as always.
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cstack3
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 23:00 |
I saw Anderson-Ponty Band a while back, both of those old gents gave a great show & can still put out a great new product.
Will see Crimson in a few days, can't wait!!
Those who had instrumental talent in their 20s and 30s seem to still have it in their 60s and 70s. Richie Blackmore, Steve Howe, the list is quite long.
However, it is sad to see an artist like Ian Anderson go beyond their date due to loss of vocals. Some do need to give it up.
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SteveG
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Posted: June 26 2017 at 04:23 |
Yes, I agree about old timers that struggle to sing. I can't imagine anyone going to a current Renaissance concert if Annie Haslam now sounded like Roger Chapman, but to each his own I suppose.
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 26 2017 at 15:53 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Saw Robin Trower. Dude can still jam at 72. I mean really jam. His newer releases are quite good as well.
I gave up on Ian Anderson several years ago. His voice is cringe-worthy, and without Martin Barre there really is no connection to Tull any longer. He should stick with the orchestral tours because he plays as great as always. |
I also won't go to see Anderson anymore...Tull is gone.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 06 2017 at 08:10 |
Listening to Phil Collins on the last Genesis tour in 2007, I thought his voice was going. The band having to transpose songs down so he can manage the high notes, didn't sound good to me. They seemed to be playing some tracks slower too, notably Behnind the Lines and Turn it on again.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: July 06 2017 at 09:06 |
Gary Brooker's voice sounds rather shot on the latest PH. If only he had thought of gargling with salt water first before entering the recording studio. 
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SteveG
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Posted: July 07 2017 at 09:50 |
Gary knows every trick in the book in regards to taking care of his voice. He prefers Ricola cough drops in a pinch. So, if he can't fix his voice, then it's really broke.
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ProfPanglos
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Posted: July 25 2017 at 17:24 |
Ian Anderson lost his mojo decades ago, unfortunately.
I concur with others here, Crim is currently at their peak - saw them in earlier decades, and recently in 2014 and 2017, and they have never been tighter or more visceral.
Also concur with others here regarding C. Vander/Magma. Saw them in both 2016 and 2017 - ferocious.
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