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SteveG
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Topic: Too Old to Rock and Roll? Yea or Nay? Posted: June 19 2017 at 04:14 |
Yea: Ian Anderson Gary Brooker Yes Nay: Annie Haslam Roger Waters David Gilmour Roy Harper Robert Fripp Dave Cousins Rod Agent What's your list of Yea and Nay of old geezers in prog? I think that we will find the nay lists to be very short or non existent.
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Kepler62
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Posted: June 19 2017 at 05:48 |
I dunno. This latest incarnation of Crimson just tells me that it's time for the retirement home. I passed on a couple of free tickets to see them in Toronto in July. I'll stick to my 70s LPs.
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Posted: June 19 2017 at 05:58 |
Yea...The Stones. They need to turn it in, they really do. They look and sound awful IMO.
As for prog musicians, I'm not sure any are really too old really. They don't tend to strut and swagger as per rock 'n' roll bands, it's about the music, not the image, so they can get away with doing what they do into old age, or relative old age. IMO.
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Posted: June 19 2017 at 05:59 |
Dunno, but they're all too young to die.
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Posted: June 19 2017 at 06:02 |
^^ Spot on.
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Posted: June 19 2017 at 16:26 |
Gilmour still seems to bring it. Not sure why he should call it. The guy clearly lives and breathes music.
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Posted: June 19 2017 at 20:07 |
Kepler62 wrote:
I dunno. This latest incarnation of Crimson just tells me that it's time for the retirement home. I passed on a couple of free tickets to see them in Toronto in July. I'll stick to my 70s LPs. |
My God, man! I first saw LTIA King Crimson (no Jamie Muir) April 20, 1973, and have seen KC many times since...
The show I witnessed on Sept 14, 2014 was perhaps the BEST prog-rock concert I'd ever seen, period!! It was that good....My friend who was with me agreed (he went back to Yes' first USA concert).
We had Mellotrons (iPad version), Fripp in amazing form, same for Levin, Jakko doing a fantastic job on Lake and Wetton vocals and playing some excellent guitar, three drummers....this was the stage.
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Posted: June 19 2017 at 20:18 |
I saw Devo a few years ago. They had a young drummer that kicked ass and made the rest of band really sharp despite the older members not looking like spring chickens. Mostly good because the last album was as good as classic Devo. Most bands though should give it a rest. I think bands like the Beatles had the right idea. End it in your peak and let your legendary status not be bogged down by mediocrity. One of the few exceptions is VDGG. Their last album was excellent despite not being as OMG perfect as their 70s heyday.
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Posted: June 19 2017 at 20:19 |
Also, i saw Magma live last year and i was blown away by how awesome Christian Zander can play at his tender young age of close to 70!
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Posted: June 19 2017 at 23:41 |
Steve Hackett can still bring it, and he never appears to age anyway!
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Posted: June 20 2017 at 00:42 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Also, i saw Magma live last year and i was blown away by how awesome Christian Zander can play at his tender young age of close to 70! |
4 Times now I have seen them. And really, they are the only classic era band I will bother to see. There are so many new acts I like that play smaller venues.
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Posted: June 20 2017 at 03:51 |
Kepler62 wrote:
I dunno. This latest incarnation of Crimson just tells me that it's time for the retirement home. I passed on a couple of free tickets to see them in Toronto in July. I'll stick to my 70s LPs. | Dumbest post of 2017! You even beat me, dude.
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Posted: June 20 2017 at 04:29 |
I would go see most of these old geezers in a live setting, sure, but I am not even slightly interested in hearing a new album from Floyd/Tull/Crimson/Procol/etc etc. All these folls have pretty much said what they wanted to say musically even if they preface every new release with 'oh this is my best work to date and I really feel I've ventured into new and exciting musical venues'...and the album ends up sounding exactly like it's predecessor. Most musicians lull into this nauseatingly comfortable mode once they've hit their stride and then they stay - like a dog glued to a step. There are exceptions though but they are rare. Better and far more interesting to keep an eye on the musicians that still wee standing up.
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Posted: June 20 2017 at 12:27 |
They are all too old to 'rock n roll'....imho , but if they come to a theater by me I'll probably go see them. I haven't bought anything by Yes, Tull, Floyd solo things or Genesis when they were still recording for years now...I will pick up any new KC but they have always been my favorite prog group. Like someone else said I play the old 70's stuff mostly....and a few newer bands .
I saw the Moody Blues recently and while they did a decent job they are a bit too old imho to be doing rock and roll and the drummer Edge even commented on his recent birthday of turning 75.
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Posted: June 20 2017 at 14:49 |
Ah but since when was Rock'N'Roll Prog Rock?
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Posted: June 20 2017 at 16:51 |
James Labrie in DT.
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Posted: June 21 2017 at 09:58 |
Kepler62 wrote:
I dunno. This latest incarnation of Crimson just tells me that it's time for the retirement home. I passed on a couple of free tickets to see them in Toronto in July. I'll stick to my 70s LPs. |
I am a big proponent of bands like Yes calling it quits and I have never seen JTull and really don't want to, too old! I have seen Clapton several times, but prolly no more as he is getting frail.
Even band like Scorpions who I have seen many times in the 80's, today both Klaus and Rudolf struggle physically. Seeing them in Sept and will prolly be the last time, I prefer the 80's version of Rudolf running around the stage like a madman, vs him just standing there.
But King Crimson, nahhhh. You gotta go see the current tour, sure Fripp barely moves in his spot, but he never has. The music is very old, but it does not play old and Jakko does a fantastic job on the vocals, even my wife complimented him on his vocals she was impressed. I would see them again.......
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Posted: June 21 2017 at 10:10 |
Your wife dug Jakko's vox? Now that's a heavy endorsement!
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Posted: June 21 2017 at 10:43 |
She had no clue who KC were, but she comes to all my concerts. Of course many she knows the name of the band but does not really listen much to the music unless we are in the car and I am playing it. She has her favs like Rush, Scorps, DT, Neal Morse.....but anything heavy progressive not much of a clue. She knows Steven Wilson now as the guy who plays barefoot, we have seen him twice now.
On the drive to see the Crim I gave her a 20min history lesson on KC, after the show she commented on Fripps sound that she liked, she said "what kind of guitar does he play"? She said he was too stoic, I said honey he is like 71yrs old, she was like whaaaaatt??
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Posted: June 22 2017 at 07:24 |
I was completely underwhelmed by Crimson's Live at the Orpheum album but with regards to the OP, would reluctantly agree that Fripp and Co have never remotely cared if they were considered part of what is marketed to us as Rock 'n' Roll. The latest Procol Harum album (Novum) is really a Gary Brooker solo release (seeing as how none of the original members are on it, including lyricist Keith Reid) but it ain't bad as far as singer/songwriter piano driven ennui goes a.k.a bus passers singing about a past that never even happened in the first place. Gary's record company know that the PH franchise carries more weight than GB. Yes and Ian Anderson should be euthanized as soon as practicable and humane to anyone even remotely concerned.
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