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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65249 |
Posted: March 05 2017 at 01:10 |
I have to wonder if very many care about the Russia thing. Many don't know what the story is, and if they did would (correctly) ask "so the hell what?" Edited by Atavachron - March 05 2017 at 01:10 |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65249 |
Posted: March 05 2017 at 01:07 |
The tweeting has to stop. It will be his downfall.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: March 05 2017 at 01:03 |
It does make you wonder how long this can go on for, until he's stretched the gullibility of his supporters just that little bit too far. Then, on the other hand, that could be years.
I'm quite astonished how much his madcap tweets are still being paid major attention to by the media. If you ask me, they should all just be collected into a separate folder marked 'Christmas Bloopers'. That would be the best show ever. By the way, I've just learnt that we can rest peacefully again. The nuclear codes have been secretly replaced with a copy of the chickaDEE crossword puzzle. Safe as houses. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 16:42 |
Trump's latest plan (and this is one I have no doubt he sincerely believes in and the GOP will gladly go with)
14% cut to IRS funding. As Robert Reich pointed out, this will actually make the gov deficit worse because each dollar spent by the IRS generates $4 in unpaid taxes. Also since most audits are aimed at high income earners, who also get out of more taxes, this will be yet another boon for the wealthy. Courtesy of Mr working class populist Trump Also the Keystone Pipeline is apparently not gunna use any US steel. loloops that silly Trump and his promises!
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The Dark Elf
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13054 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 14:27 |
I wonder when it will dawn on Trump that it was perhaps the Russians who tapped his line. After all, they hacked everything else.
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 14:20 |
I've heard that when nobody checks it, he also tends to spell his name 'Trumpp'. Fake news or alternative fact?
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 04 2017 at 13:58 |
The president is a loon.
As the Wizard of Odd is attempting to say, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. But I don't mean the Iron Curtain, which is fake news." P.S. The President of the United States cannot spell "t-a-p".
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 11:22 |
That's interesting, but I'm not sure what that's supposed to demonstrate or prove, apart from the fact that caller identification seems to be a bit wonky.
I hate to admit it, but I'm quite impressed how McCain handeled the conversation. He was mainly non-commital and diplomatic. And bear in mind that I have an intense dislike for the man since that stage incident where he sang bomb-bomb-boomb, bomb-bomb Iran to the tune of the Beach Boys' Barbara Ann. Admittedly, it's not on the same level as James Mattis declaring at a press conference that it's fun to shoot people, but still: birds of a feather. Edited by npjnpj - March 04 2017 at 12:00 |
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6341 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 10:56 |
And now for something completely different... Edited by omphaloskepsis - March 04 2017 at 10:56 |
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SteveG
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20604 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 08:58 |
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 08:17 |
Ah, thank goodness, Donald Trump is back and as insane as ever.
His tweets concerning Obama listening in on his phone calls hits the spot. Now we know who's been bugging him all this time. It's good to know it's really him, because if his tweets are written directly and not dictated, they contain at least one spelling mistake. Quite an achievement in itself, considering the average length of a tweet (in this case: spelling 'tap' with double-p). Seriously, after his teleprompter speech before the senate it's like welcoming an old friend back after a short but serious ailment. He had me worried for a few days. Edited by npjnpj - March 04 2017 at 08:30 |
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 02:04 |
Is there such a thing as well-intended treason out of necessity for the good of the country? After all, Donald Trump made a pig's breakfast out of his first negotiation with Australia. Even Steve Bannon had been heard to mutter: "Here, steady on!"
All in all it seems that anyone including Bozo The Clown could have done that better. Well, what do you expect when Donald and Mickey are in running the country? Edited by npjnpj - March 04 2017 at 03:11 |
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6341 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 00:56 |
Dark Elf said- But nice try making the Republicans seem ethical. Oh, but sorry, they aren't ethical at all; in fact, they just recently gutted the Office of Congressional Ethics, because they want to hide their dishonest, unethical. I am not a Republican. I don't believe Republicans are ethical. I am not a Democrat. I don't believe Democrats are ethical. https://www.worldnewspolitics.com/2017/02/04/mccain-violates-logan-act/ "McCain called the Australian ambassador to pass on a message to Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. Besides being stupid – in the middle of negotiating you need to be strong – this call violates the Logan Act. On other words, it’s treason. The Logan Act stipulates we have one voice when talking to our international friends and enemies. The law prevents citizens, like Senators, from interfering in disputes the United States is having with foreign countries. It is a critical piece of our foreign policy." Edited by omphaloskepsis - March 04 2017 at 01:20 |
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: March 04 2017 at 00:13 |
I find it difficult to believe that there was amy Russian involvement at all.
I think most of the Trump votes actually resulted from hundreds of thousands of poor sods being told in the voting booths to sign their names with a cross in that little circle there to win a free two-week trip to Hawaii. |
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: March 03 2017 at 23:43 |
I went to the trouble of reading that article (twice actually), and I've still got only the vaguest idea what they're going on about. My impression is that whatever muddle-head wrote it has a lot of trouble expressing himself clearly. What a load of convoluted tripe! How is the average Trump supporter supposed to understand all that?
It seems that there is a DOJ slush fund that someone (in the Obama administration) did something with that wasn't illegal, possibly immoral, and highly questionable for, .... well...., reasons. Perhaps. At the very least I think it might be outragous. I'm not sure though. Whatever the contents of this highly inflamatory articel might be, I'm certain it's scandalous, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it might be. One thing is certain though: Obama must go! Edited by npjnpj - March 03 2017 at 23:44 |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 03 2017 at 23:25 |
You mean settlements from corrupt corporations. The money is from judgments against unethical corporations who have cheated consumers. Like the Bank of America. And Volkswagen. If you actually read the Fox News hogwash, you'd actually understand what the Republicans are trying to do, once you eliminate the Faux News rhetoric. But nice try making the Republicans seem ethical. Oh, but sorry, they aren't ethical at all; in fact, they just recently gutted the Office of Congressional Ethics, because they want to hide their dishonest, unethical nature... https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/the-gops-ethics-disaster/512021/ And why is this important now, considering Republican reluctance to investigate actual treason occurring in the Trump White House. Treason. For a group that professes an alleged attachment to constitutionality (when it suits their agenda), one would think a hostile act perpetrated by a foreign power on the U.S. (you know, the hacking of the election process every national security agency says was done by the Russians), and mounting evidence that every staffer in the White House had conversations with the Russians during the presidential campaign or had questionable business dealings with the Russians would supersede anything else. |
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6341 |
Posted: March 03 2017 at 19:24 |
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/01/gop-wants-to-eliminate-shadowy-doj-slush-fund-bankrolling-leftist-groups.html The Obama administration funneled billions of dollars to activist organizations through a Department of Justice slush fund scheme, according to congressional investigators. “It’s clear partisan politics played a role in the illicit actions that were made,” Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, told Fox News. “The DOJ is the last place this should have occurred.” Findings spearheaded by the House Judiciary Committee point to a process shrouded in secrecy whereby monies were distributed to a labyrinth of nonprofit organizations involved with grass-roots activism. Edited by omphaloskepsis - March 03 2017 at 19:27 |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: March 03 2017 at 07:42 |
It would happen the other way too anyway. When one party commands a huge majority (I am thinking of a parliamentary system a la UK), they enjoy a lot of popular support and people don't want to listen to the opposition and think of them as a nuisance. By contrast, a scattered opposition in a coalition govt is probably better.
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: March 03 2017 at 07:35 |
The only thing wrong with such a coalition system is that it results in a serious lack of opposition.
The present German Bundestag, for instance, is a prime example of this. The two main parties, who should be opposing each other and suggesting alternatives, are now in government together and practically indistinguishable from each other, leaving only the extreme right- and left wing crackpots in opposition. It's a pretty dire situation. Edited by npjnpj - March 03 2017 at 07:39 |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: March 03 2017 at 07:26 |
Absolutely a coalition system is better. Yes, it often is inefficient, indecisive and messy (as also being very prone to corruption as rent seeking ensues between the allies). But you know what, those things are much less important than representing everyone's interests. What I have learnt from the experience of the first time in my life that a single party formed a govt of its own at the centre in India is it takes whipping up a frightening wave of mass sentiment of some sort for enough people to vote a single party into power. The last time it happened was a destructive 'sympathy' vote which cost the lives of many Sikhs (in the capital city, no less). This time...no need to elaborate, I think. So...yes, USA would probably also be better served with a coalition govt.
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