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Points: 10387 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2017 at 07:57
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

What happen in Sweden last night?   Immigrant riot breaks out in Stockholm last night.  Looting, cars burned, and masked men throw rocks at police.  
from the BBC: "Swedish police have launched an investigation after a riot erupted in a predominantly immigrant suburb of the capital, Stockholm.

One officer fired at rioters who threw rocks at police.

The unrest in the Rinkeby suburb on Monday night came after police tried to arrest a suspect on drugs charges.

It also comes after US President Donald Trump referred to Sweden in a speech on immigration problems, baffling Swedes about a non-existent incident."


 
And the conclusion is? Trump incites riots in far away country? 

the conclusion is Trump is a prophet. he is the new Messiah! let us strew his path with palm leaves, let us bathe his feet, dry them with our hair and then anoint them with balm.

too bad I have to pass on that due to lack of hair


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Yes, this Swedish terrorism is shocking! Police video captured, what can only be some type of anarchist action, a lone individual kicking over a public trash can and fleeing the scene. It's only a matter of time before one of these radicals leaves a burning paper bag filled with dog poop on some innocent person's front porch, rings the doorbell and runs! Oh, the humanities!

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Originally posted by twseel twseel wrote:

So I'm sure you've also heard about the anti-immigrant riots here, including looting, cars burned and people fighting the police.
 
Let alone how well the immigrant riots (masked men???) would be working for the revival of Trump's ban.
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

What happen in Sweden last night?   Immigrant riot breaks out in Stockholm last night.  Looting, cars burned, and masked men throw rocks at police.  
from the BBC: "Swedish police have launched an investigation after a riot erupted in a predominantly immigrant suburb of the capital, Stockholm.

One officer fired at rioters who threw rocks at police.

The unrest in the Rinkeby suburb on Monday night came after police tried to arrest a suspect on drugs charges.

It also comes after US President Donald Trump referred to Sweden in a speech on immigration problems, baffling Swedes about a non-existent incident."


 
And the conclusion is? Trump incites riots in far away country? 
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So I'm sure you've also heard about the anti-immigrant riots here, including looting, cars burned and people fighting the police.
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What happen in Sweden last night?   Immigrant riot breaks out in Stockholm last night.  Looting, cars burned, and masked men throw rocks at police.  
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Trump is a two legged carp.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:



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whatever it is .. it is not to reality

 
hell yeahh its a psychological virus.......... Confused , so let us be real, don't let the virus spread............ LOL Dead

EDIT: 'so let us be real, don't let the virus spread' - I meant it as the new argument for reviving Trump's travel ban.


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^ No I meant the immigration problem-- the Trump problem is all too real.  Maybe I mistook Kepler's point.
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Originally posted by Kepler62 Kepler62 wrote:

I just don't understand what all the fuss is about. I can see Buffalo from my living room. I live right on Lake Erie. They come over here and we go over there. The world hasn't stopped. I think it's just a loud minority that's making a a brou ha ha about this and of course the media circus.

Rather true.  It seems to be more a psychological virus than an existential problem.

Really? He is unpredictable and that is no laughing matter. Every prediction made about him has failed - he would be selected; he wouldn't beat Clinton; he wouldn't be elected; the GOP would control him; Congress would contain him; he wouldn't come true on his wild campaign promises. What we see is someone who believes in himself so much that when he says something stupid or out-right wrong he never backs down and he never will - he will move mountains to make the hilariously dumb things he says appear to be a reality for his supporters because his narcissism will not permit any other course of action. As is clear from the past few pages here, practically everyone here can see that finding correlation between two sets of unrelated statistics is dumb, stupid and meaningless to the point of being disingenuous and deliberately dishonest, yet there are those who believe it and that is the target audience Trump is talking to. He is not trying to win-over the "loud minority" or the media as everything he has done thus far is aimed squarely at marginalising and discrediting anyone who opposes him, and as I see it after barely a month in office, that's working in his favour too. 
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I'm glad to see that Trump is as popular in the UK as he is in the US. ...
Not sure why. It's probably best to ignore him. Just the thought of him makes me like my life a little less. 
Trump is not an itnernet troll, thou' his behaviour is not dissimilar. Ignoring him is precisely what you must not do because that's just plain stupid and down-right dangerous.
A follow-up support of the argument would do the trick. Otherwise, I don't know why I'm reading such a vague negative response. 

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Laugh at him by all means, but remember he's been handed the keys to the most powerful country in the world with a clear mandate from the population who elected him to do whatever the fu*k he likes for the next four years.
How 'clear' are we talking? Nothing's ever clear about what's going on behind the curtains of the politics of this country, let alone how well the votes were added up. 
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Originally posted by Kepler62 Kepler62 wrote:

I just don't understand what all the fuss is about. I can see Buffalo from my living room. I live right on Lake Erie. They come over here and we go over there. The world hasn't stopped. I think it's just a loud minority that's making a a brou ha ha about this and of course the media circus.

Rather true.  It seems to be more a psychological virus than an existential problem.
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I just don't understand what all the fuss is about. I can see Buffalo from my living room. I live right on Lake Erie. They come over here and we go over there. The world hasn't stopped. I think it's just a loud minority that's making a a brou ha ha about this and of course the media circus. Don is in for 4 years which means four years of quality entertainment. All we have to do is watch CNN. It's better than the Comedy Network.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2017 at 17:02
and you know what before I put myself in thread timeout... this sh*t really does piss me off.... gone is embarrassment.. then comes anger..

my fellow f**king Americans...

get your heads out of your asses.. you have bigger problems than targeting those who are different.. those who are those trying to escape to a better life and upsetting your notion of a white christian America.

the f**king idiots white christians already here...




yet we did NOTHING, those fools you elect to Congress did nothing... and yet you all elect someone that plays to your racial fears..your ignorance.... your ..bah...

whatever it is .. it is not to reality
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think my point and meaning is clear...  actually was embarrassed reading the last few pages.

If one can't find facts here, terrorism, rape whatever... f**k it.. make them up.  However Bowling Green.. oh yeah.. Atlanta too... that taught the right something...  go to Sweden.. most AMericans couldn't name two cities from there.  Hah.. those pesky fact checkers and evil media and liberals will never catch that and it frames the narrative they are trying to push.


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Re: Sweden rape statistics et. all.: nowadays, the generally accepted result (as presented to the general public) of compared statistics has become largely valueless. The brashness with this still is done confounds me most of the time. Please let me explain what I mean:

Two statistics can only be compared if the calculation basis remains unaltered for any two time periods being compared. It is invalid to compare two statistical results if their calculation basis differs.

Calculate the rape statistic for a country for the time period A, and you get a certain result a.
Calculate the rape statistic for this same country for another time period B USING A CHANGED RULESET, and you get a result b. And now, what is done and NEVER SHOULD BE DONE: the results a and b are presented next to each other for comparison. Anyone trained in mathematical statistics will tell you that this comparison is valueless, the transferred information is worth nothing at all. You can only compare two such resultant numbers if the same rule set applies.

What you should be presented with for valid comparison is the availability of 4 results: two for the time periods A and B under rule set one, and another two for the same time periods A and B for the new (altered) rule set. The corresponding results can now be reliably compared. But you can NEVER compare time period A under rule set one with time period B under rule set two, because these two have practically nothing in common. The value of such a comparison is ZERO! And yet, this is what is practically the norm now. Surprisingly no one ever protests and wants to see the real data comparison results.

The same principle is also liberally applied to many other areas, such as national unemployment figures, so that everything is doctored to look superficially good, although this is often not the case.

The brazen cheek of all this drives me crazy! The institues publishing such results are well aware of the invalidity, and still they continue this malpractice.



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Originally posted by Kepler62 Kepler62 wrote:

Well, I wouldn't say he can do whatever he likes. He can't drive and can't even use an iphone among other things. He can't start a war. If he wants to start WWIII he has to have the approval of congress even though he has to sign the actual declaration. The President is not as powerful as most would think. He can beak off all he wants which is what Trump loves to do.
Of course he can start WWIII, all he has to do is piss off the wrong people and the war starts whether congress approves or not. WWIII won't be some polite gentlemen's agreement that fat farts in Washington get to vote on whether they join-in at the beginning or sit back and see how it goes first like the last two.Clown



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Well, I wouldn't say he can do whatever he likes. He can't drive and can't even use an iphone among other things. He can't start a war. If he wants to start WWIII he has to have the approval of congress even though he has to sign the actual declaration. The President is not as powerful as most would think. He can beak off all he wants which is what Trump loves to do.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I'm glad to see that Trump is as popular in the UK as he is in the US. ...
Not sure why. It's probably best to ignore him. Just the thought of him makes me like my life a little less. 
Trump is not an itnernet troll, thou' his behaviour is not dissimilar. Ignoring him is precisely what you must not do because that's just plain stupid and down-right dangerous.

Laugh at him by all means, but remember he's been handed the keys to the most powerful country in the world with a clear mandate from the population who elected him to do whatever the fu*k he likes for the next four years.

Good luck with that.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:


 

This article underlines (among other things) what I said before: Just because the trends of two independent statistics appear to be similar does not mean there is a correlation between them. The fact that both the population of storks and the human birth rate significantly increased over a given time period does not mean that the stork brings the babies (an example my statistics professor at the university liked to give). It is an all too human trait to fall into this trap though.


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