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RoeDent
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Animals is Pink Floyd's prog-ROCK album. Guitar prominence over keyboard does not equal a drop in quality. Especially when you have someone like Gilmour playing that guitar. It's Pink Floyd with bite, with edge, with grit. And besides, Rick Wright has his moments in Animals too. The ambient section in Dogs, the intro to Sheep.
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ctasan
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I really like the 1969-75 period of Pink Floyd... They released The Dark Side of The Moon, which is far best of Pink Floyd. Just this? Ummagumma, Meddle, AHM, and soundtracks... (I haven't listened them yet)
After Wish You Were Here, things started to go wrong. 1977's Animals suffers a dramatic drop of quality compared to previous one. Guitars took over the attention rather then keyboard, Rick, soul and emotion of the group. The Wall, especially The Final Cut, seems to me just a show of Roger's ego. He can't control himself, with cruelty, drops the bombs and destroys everything. Whoa?! Is that really Pink Floyd? You can just go and listen ear-banging metal! Then starts the underrated years. A Momentary Lapse of Reason, okay, is under impact of 1980s commercial sound. It properly tells you after-nuclear-war world. Showing signs of life enough? You have to face sorrow. The Division Bell? Better than The Wall. David's amd Rick's souls merge and this masterpiece is born. Mainly keyboard and guitar, with never-forgotten Rick's drum, properly mixed here. Songs "Marooned", "Keep Talking" and "High Hopes" is unforgettable. Wish the trio had produced more albums (The Endless River is the confirmation), and wish Rick lived more... I think Roger now sees "what he had done". |
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AZF
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Sorry, volumes indeed. Maybe I was still stunned at only 1CD for 1968 and 1971. |
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Dellinger
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Not individual discs, but individual "volumes". I hope the prices are accesible enough.
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AZF
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http://the-early-years.pinkfloyd.com
Individual discs released on March 24th! |
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Pink Floyd made a ton of masterful tracks. They are inconsistent in style so it's hard to rate them but I'll list some of my favorites and why I think these tracks are great.
Time- The solo is absolutely amazing. Atom Heart Mother Suite- The melding of classical and rock, along with captivating solos that span many styles is great, and it's impressively original for 1970. Echoes- This could subsitute LSD. One moment it's serene and the next David Gilmour's guitar is screeching like a whale. Dogs- The dark, Orwellian lyrics are prominent here like the other tracks in Dogs, but this is where it is most prevalent. Also, when it comes to Floyd, the longer the better. Every track on the Wall- this may be biased since the Wall was the first Pink Floyd album I listened to, but the nihilistic sound really grabs me in. I've listened to this album every day of my life.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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For a long time the only PF album I owned was "the final cut" which I bought when it first came out. Even then my mom got on my case for buying it because my uncle had all their albums by then. Yes, that's right. My uncle who is now 87 years old is a big fan of Pink Floyd. Because of him I never had to buy their stuff. Instead I could just borrow them or go over to his place and listen. When cds came out he eventually gave me all his old albums(which I still have somewhere). I have him to thank for me getting into them to a great degree. The only thing is he got to see them live and I didn't. I had a ticket to see them but sold it because I didn't want to go by myself(shrugs).
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Catcher10
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Watched again last night Wider Horizons, I love that documentary. Even my wife enjoys it due to Polly's contributions, the whole wife factor :)
Considering what seems like a very disjointed relationship with his parents, today he seems so unaffected by it.....I always find it sad that he does not miss his mother, but it makes sense. I for one think David Gilmour is an amazing artist and family man.
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AZF
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Can't wait for the individual discs from the box set finally gets released!
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Finnforest
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It was 50 years ago today.....
This photo was snapped and four kids had a record deal with EMI. 50 years! |
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God I love this....thank you David
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Live 1970
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Affek
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I agree that it's Roger who should take all blame for personality clashes, etc. but it all was out of sheer frustration. He wasn't nearly as famous as other members of the band. I remember that in his biography he mentioned that no one really acknowledged him as a driving force. He wanted absolute control but it was because he demanded attention.
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Prog Rock (1969-1977)
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Finnforest
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Stumbled across one I'd not watched before. Remember a Day in '68.
The fun part about this is they are literally cracking up over having to lip synch, it fun to see Roger laughing so much about miming his parts. At least I suspect that's what they're laughing about, who knows.. |
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^ I'm no expert on Floyd and while I like them I'm not what one would call a huge fan...but I have read some pretty nasty things by Waters in his interviews and he did 'mistreat' some of the band members toward the end. He might have been the one taking care of business and coming up with the 'concepts' but
it seems to me if anyone is to blame for their personality clashes and the demise of the original lineup it's probably him. |
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Tom Ozric
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A point worthy of mention here : now it's just a thought - none of us, fans shall we say, were in the band, we don't know any of them personally, but we still insist Roger this and David that........ Could it be that Rog was a control freak with a massive ego ?? Could David and the others have been lazy (or stoned) ?? Maybe Roger's attitude was 'my way or the highway' ?? I'm not paying out on Roger - he's the reason I picked up the bass, he is quite righteous to me, but I admire Gilmour and his vision of Floyd equally.
It's obvious that Roger was the motivator, he had the grand concepts, the work already mapped out in his mind. He clearly didn't let the others interfere (or contribute much) with that. Doesn't mean Gilmour is the 'weak link'..... |
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Hahahaha.
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I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
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Finnforest
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^Good post
I definitely feel David is every bit as important to me as a listener.....I enjoy him so much. I just recall Roger saying with a hint of contempt that by the late 70s he was the guy doing the heavy lifting in the studio....while the others were content to play golf and race their cars much of the time...or whatever. David has acknowledged that there is at least some truth to that. I think that in any band, the person who is really willing to "crack the whip" and finish the long, meticulous, unglamorous work...deserves some praise for that. Instead they painted him as a dictator.....but oh well....part of the band's charm I suppose. Personalities. |
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Dellinger
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I always felt that from Dark side to The Wall (or The Final Cut, actually), Waters was considered the driving force and the face of the band. In some ways I do agree, but in others not so much. He sure was the one that came up with the concepts, which seems to be the first step (at least with this band) to create the masterpieces they did. However, I wouldn't say he was the most important factor to create those wonderful albums... at least not with Dark Side, Wish you were Here, and Animals (which I would consider my very favourite period from the band)... with this albums, it was still a matter of the whole band creating the great albums. About songs written by Gilmour... well, actually he didn't write many songs...
On Dark Side, I think there was none written by Gilmour... though he does have credits with the rest of the band at least on Time. Besides that one Dark Side is mostly Waters and Wright, and I'm not sure who's contributions I consider more important. On Wish you Were Here... well, Shine On is credited to the whole band, so I woulnd't know who did the most important part of the songwriting. I obviously would guess that the guitar segments were written by Gilmour, and the keyboard ones by Wright... and perhaps the vocal ones by Waters? I think on the albums it actually sais who wrote which parts. Gilmour's song on this album is the title track, perhaps one of the more famous ones by the band and surely an important contribution on the album, though on a site like this one it may not be among the favourite ones. On Animals, often considered already almost a Waters driven album, Dogs is actually mostly Gilmour (I understand the music is by Gilmour, and the lyrics, as always, by Waters, so the song is credited to both)... and since that song takes almost half the album, I would consider his contribution to that album really important (and since that's my favourite song from the album, that makes the contribution all the more important for me). And even on The Wall... Waters wrote almost the whole album... but perhaps the most beloved song from it, Comfortably Numb (at least for the more serious Floyd fans, more casual ones might prefer Another Birck part 2), was mostly a Gilmour thing. So, perhaps Gilmour didn't write so much for the band, but what he wrote was usually highlits on the albums... and that's considering songs written mostly by him only (which as it turns, are not so many), if we consider which bits of the more collaborative songs were written by him perhaps we would find even more highlights. The thing, in the end, is that the band was at it's very best when they all worked together to make the magic happen, and none of them on their own could have achieved the same level as they did together. |
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Finnforest
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Good post Tom. Roger also deserves a nod for being driven, for being the one to really push to get things done. David has admitted that he and the others were not exactly motivated in the late 70s. And I think Syd deserves a big nod for being the launching pad. Would the Floyd have been noticed and given opportunities had Piper never happened? Maybe, not sure though. Edited by Finnforest - April 09 2016 at 15:35 |
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